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					Originally Posted by Jason Dunn  Maybe m4/3.   | Yeah, but that doesn't account for this gremlin:
http://gizmodo.com/5431519/samsung-n...-camera-format 
Or for any future ones using other sensors and lens mounts. Definitely needs a category designation all its own.
 
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					Originally Posted by ptyork  Actually there's no hack involved. Simply add the allowfullscreen parameter and set it to "true". Need to add it both as an attribute of the embed tag AND as a param tag within the object tag. It's now part of the default embed code coming from YouTube. | Right you are! Turns out though that TinyMCE, the toolbar control we use in our CMS, doesn't seem to like that part of the code, and keeps breaking it. There's no fix other than for us to manually use the YouTube embed code.    What we need is for TinyMCE to fix the darn bugs... |  
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			 Nice camera, my friend. Of course, I saw some images already on your blog, and it seems you're having a ball with it. I'm  still undecided if I go for the GF1 (or 2 by that time...), or the Olympus E-P2. It's a decision between AF speed and sensor stabilization / usability of my existing four thirds lenses. One thing I'm sure of: that lens you have is awfully nice!
 
 Oh, and in the Four Thirds forums the notion of this type of camera (DSLR without the mirror box needed for the optical viewfinder) went by the name EVIL (Electronic Viewfinder Interchangable Lenses). :-)
 
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					Originally Posted by marlof  I'm  still undecided if I go for the GF1 (or 2 by that time...), or the Olympus E-P2. It's a decision between AF speed and sensor stabilization / usability of my existing four thirds lenses. One thing I'm sure of: that lens you have is awfully nice! | I figured with you being such an Olympus guy, it wouldn't be a hard decision, but I'm happy the Panasonic is tempting you. ;-) I initially was hesitant at not having the IS in the GF-1, but with the f/1.7 lens, it's not much of an issue. I still wish it had it mind you - I'll take every trick I can get to achieve sharper pictures!
 
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					Originally Posted by marlof  Oh, and in the Four Thirds forums the notion of this type of camera (DSLR without the mirror box needed for the optical viewfinder) went by the name EVIL (Electronic Viewfinder Interchangable Lenses). :-) |  Hahahaha....."I'm using an EVIL camera". That just sounds so wrong. Guess it's better than DILC though.     |  
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					Originally Posted by Jason Dunn  I figured with you being such an Olympus guy, it wouldn't be a hard decision, but I'm happy the Panasonic is tempting you. ;-) | I like my Olympus DSLRs, but mostly for the quality of their mid range lenses. I'm not a brand zealot, and my current small sensor camera is the Panasonic LX3, which I like a lot too. I think I'll wait for the announcement of the follow up to the GF1, and then decide. I'm not exactly in a rush. :-) 
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				 Need IS Your unboxing videos were great.  Nice job!   I love the camera, but I need image stabilization because of hand tremors.  This is made even more important due to the lack of an electronic viewfinder whose use stabilizes the camera somewhat against my forehead.   It's always something....
 
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			 I still prefer something with a proper viewfinder, so these compact large sensor cameras are out for me. That said, I can see why it would appeal to a lot of people. It makes a great second camera if you already have a large DSLR.
 
 Still, do note that the laws of physics cannot be circumvented yet; attaching any kind of large or fast zoom lens will bulk up the kit considerably.
 
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					Originally Posted by tregnier  I love the camera, but I need image stabilization because of hand tremors.  This is made even more important due to the lack of an electronic viewfinder whose use stabilizes the camera somewhat against my forehead.   It's always something.... | Yeah, some of the "glowing sheen of love" for this product has come off after using it to shoot a bunch over the Christmas holidays. Even with a f/1.7 lens and shooting at 1/60th of a second shutter speed, at ISO 800, I'm not seeing images be as sharp as I'd hoped. 
 
And looking at how I'm shooting, the problem is obvious: just like you noted, when you're shooting with a DSLR, you've got a two-hand grip on the body (well, one on the body, and one on the lens typically), and you're pressing it up against your face. There's a lot of stability there...with the GF-1, it's so light and small, at best I'm shooting with two hands, but it's not stabilized on the horizontal plane at all. And sometimes I'm shooting one handed! People do that with point and shoot cameras, but the flash is typically firing, so it's less of an issue. I don't like flash photography, so I'm rarely if ever firing the flash on the GF-1...
 
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					Originally Posted by marlof  I think I'll wait for the announcement of the follow up to the GF1, and then decide. I'm not exactly in a rush. :-) | Well, there's always something better coming down the pipe - that's a given. Panasonic announces the GF-1 in September, and starting shipping in October I think, so it will be almost a year until we might see the GF-2, or possible longer. But if you're not in a rush, then you can wait for the GF-3, which I'm sure will be better than the GF-2.   |  
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