12-26-2009, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason Dunn
I figured with you being such an Olympus guy, it wouldn't be a hard decision, but I'm happy the Panasonic is tempting you. ;-)
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I like my Olympus DSLRs, but mostly for the quality of their mid range lenses. I'm not a brand zealot, and my current small sensor camera is the Panasonic LX3, which I like a lot too. I think I'll wait for the announcement of the follow up to the GF1, and then decide. I'm not exactly in a rush. :-)
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12-27-2009, 01:42 AM
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Need IS
Your unboxing videos were great. Nice job! I love the camera, but I need image stabilization because of hand tremors. This is made even more important due to the lack of an electronic viewfinder whose use stabilizes the camera somewhat against my forehead. It's always something....
Thanks, Jason.
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12-28-2009, 02:42 PM
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I still prefer something with a proper viewfinder, so these compact large sensor cameras are out for me. That said, I can see why it would appeal to a lot of people. It makes a great second camera if you already have a large DSLR.
Still, do note that the laws of physics cannot be circumvented yet; attaching any kind of large or fast zoom lens will bulk up the kit considerably.
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12-28-2009, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee Yuan Sheng
Still, do note that the laws of physics cannot be circumvented yet; attaching any kind of large or fast zoom lens will bulk up the kit considerably.
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Indeed. I've had many people ask me if you can swap the lenses on the GF-1, and my response is always "Yes, but I probably never will." The GF-1 with a lens any bigger than the 20mm f/1.7 makes zero sense to me - I might as well carry my D300 or D5000.
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12-28-2009, 11:24 PM
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I'm hoping I made the correct choice on my camera purchase yesterday. My Canon G9 is making some strange noises, and I don't really want to have to spend 50% the cst of a new G11 to repair it. So I'd been looking at the Canon G11, PEN E-P2, Panny GF1 and GH1. I've never used a DSLR, and considered going with the Tried N True, but I've always been a sucker for new tech.
I went with the E-P2 primarily due to the in-camera IS. I doubt I'll invest heavily in glass, and hoped that it would help make the pics with the Panny 20MM pancake lens I ordered a little sharper. Upgrades over the E-P1 included faster AF (supposedly), in-box EVF, and tilt-shift art filter. Some sample tilt-shift pics finally sold me on it - again, not going to spend huge $$$ on glass here, so that filter will be a fun option (if it doesn't suck - we'll see).
Shipping today, so I hope to be firing away soon. I don't normally drop $1,500 on something I *hope* I'll enjoy, so wish me luck ;-)
And no, I'm not going to ask anyone, "Have you seen my DILC?" I may, however, say, "In my hand, I hold an EVIL device."
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12-29-2009, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rmorris
I went with the E-P2 primarily due to the in-camera IS. I doubt I'll invest heavily in glass, and hoped that it would help make the pics with the Panny 20MM pancake lens I ordered a little sharper...
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Let us know how the E-P2 works out for you, especially the IS...
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Originally Posted by rmorris
And no, I'm not going to ask anyone, "Have you seen my DILC?" I may, however, say, "In my hand, I hold an EVIL device."
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Haha...both are great lines! 
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12-28-2009, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tregnier
I love the camera, but I need image stabilization because of hand tremors. This is made even more important due to the lack of an electronic viewfinder whose use stabilizes the camera somewhat against my forehead. It's always something....
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Yeah, some of the "glowing sheen of love" for this product has come off after using it to shoot a bunch over the Christmas holidays. Even with a f/1.7 lens and shooting at 1/60th of a second shutter speed, at ISO 800, I'm not seeing images be as sharp as I'd hoped.
And looking at how I'm shooting, the problem is obvious: just like you noted, when you're shooting with a DSLR, you've got a two-hand grip on the body (well, one on the body, and one on the lens typically), and you're pressing it up against your face. There's a lot of stability there...with the GF-1, it's so light and small, at best I'm shooting with two hands, but it's not stabilized on the horizontal plane at all. And sometimes I'm shooting one handed! People do that with point and shoot cameras, but the flash is typically firing, so it's less of an issue. I don't like flash photography, so I'm rarely if ever firing the flash on the GF-1...
I still think the GF-1 is a HECK of a camera, but I think Panasonic could have made this camera even better by putting IS inside the body. Oh, and noise levels get pretty gross at ISO 800 and higher.
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12-28-2009, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by marlof
I think I'll wait for the announcement of the follow up to the GF1, and then decide. I'm not exactly in a rush. :-)
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Well, there's always something better coming down the pipe - that's a given. Panasonic announces the GF-1 in September, and starting shipping in October I think, so it will be almost a year until we might see the GF-2, or possible longer. But if you're not in a rush, then you can wait for the GF-3, which I'm sure will be better than the GF-2.
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