
12-23-2009, 08:42 PM
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Great unboxing, Jason! I thought long and hard about whether to get a real DSLR or one of these micro four-thirds cameras, and I ended up going the safe route with the 7D. But I'm still very interested in these. I look forward to the full review.
So the obvious next contest challenge is to come up with the best acronym for this type of camera. So far we've got DILC and EVIL (electronic viewfinder interchangeable lens--hmm, not really applicable here since there's no electronic viewfinder, per se). Both are quite terrible, IMO. It'd be fun to see what others can come up with.
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12-23-2009, 08:47 PM
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Oh, one other quick thing. Any chance you could include the fullscreen button when you embed YouTube videos? I always watch these in full screen and it requires that I click through to YouTube to do so. No biggie, but if it's easy, it'd be a nice convenience.
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12-23-2009, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ptyork
Oh, one other quick thing. Any chance you could include the fullscreen button when you embed YouTube videos? I always watch these in full screen and it requires that I click through to YouTube to do so.
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I'd love to, but YouTube doesn't give us that option on the embeddable player - the full screen option is only on their own site. I can't blame them for that, they want you to see their ads and click on them. I'll ask Darius if there's a hack we could implement to get this though...
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12-23-2009, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ptyork
Great unboxing, Jason! I thought long and hard about whether to get a real DSLR or one of these micro four-thirds cameras, and I ended up going the safe route with the 7D.
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I personally wouldn't give up my DSLR for anything; my D300 still rocks the socks off the GF1 in low-light with my f/2.8 lens. But if you're a camera nut like me, the GF1 makes for a truly great second camera. And I think for many people, this form-factor of camera is a great choice instead of an intro-level DSLR (Canon Rebel, Nikon D3000, etc.). I think 2010 will be the year we see a response from Canon and Nikon to this...
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Originally Posted by ptyork
So the obvious next contest challenge is to come up with the best acronym for this type of camera. So far we've got DILC and EVIL (electronic viewfinder interchangeable lens--hmm, not really applicable here since there's no electronic viewfinder, per se).
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Maybe m4/3. 
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12-24-2009, 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason Dunn
Maybe m4/3. 
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Yeah, but that doesn't account for this gremlin:
http://gizmodo.com/5431519/samsung-n...-camera-format
Or for any future ones using other sensors and lens mounts. Definitely needs a category designation all its own.
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YouTube doesn't give us that option on the embeddable player
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Actually there's no hack involved. Simply add the allowfullscreen parameter and set it to "true". Need to add it both as an attribute of the embed tag AND as a param tag within the object tag. It's now part of the default embed code coming from YouTube.
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12-24-2009, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ptyork
Actually there's no hack involved. Simply add the allowfullscreen parameter and set it to "true". Need to add it both as an attribute of the embed tag AND as a param tag within the object tag. It's now part of the default embed code coming from YouTube.
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Right you are! Turns out though that TinyMCE, the toolbar control we use in our CMS, doesn't seem to like that part of the code, and keeps breaking it. There's no fix other than for us to manually use the YouTube embed code.  What we need is for TinyMCE to fix the darn bugs...
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12-24-2009, 05:00 PM
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Nice camera, my friend. Of course, I saw some images already on your blog, and it seems you're having a ball with it. I'm still undecided if I go for the GF1 (or 2 by that time...), or the Olympus E-P2. It's a decision between AF speed and sensor stabilization / usability of my existing four thirds lenses. One thing I'm sure of: that lens you have is awfully nice!
Oh, and in the Four Thirds forums the notion of this type of camera (DSLR without the mirror box needed for the optical viewfinder) went by the name EVIL (Electronic Viewfinder Interchangable Lenses). :-)
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12-24-2009, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by marlof
I'm still undecided if I go for the GF1 (or 2 by that time...), or the Olympus E-P2. It's a decision between AF speed and sensor stabilization / usability of my existing four thirds lenses. One thing I'm sure of: that lens you have is awfully nice!
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I figured with you being such an Olympus guy, it wouldn't be a hard decision, but I'm happy the Panasonic is tempting you. ;-) I initially was hesitant at not having the IS in the GF-1, but with the f/1.7 lens, it's not much of an issue. I still wish it had it mind you - I'll take every trick I can get to achieve sharper pictures!
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Oh, and in the Four Thirds forums the notion of this type of camera (DSLR without the mirror box needed for the optical viewfinder) went by the name EVIL (Electronic Viewfinder Interchangable Lenses). :-)
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Hahahaha....."I'm using an EVIL camera". That just sounds so wrong. Guess it's better than DILC though. 
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12-26-2009, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason Dunn
I figured with you being such an Olympus guy, it wouldn't be a hard decision, but I'm happy the Panasonic is tempting you. ;-)
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I like my Olympus DSLRs, but mostly for the quality of their mid range lenses. I'm not a brand zealot, and my current small sensor camera is the Panasonic LX3, which I like a lot too. I think I'll wait for the announcement of the follow up to the GF1, and then decide. I'm not exactly in a rush. :-)
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