Dell Axim Wins Convert In Media [Archive]

Ed Hansberry

01-05-2003, 01:00 PM

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/personaltechnology/134608969_ptaxim040.html' target='_blank'>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ht..._ptaxim040.html</a><br /><br /></div>"The Axim is such a good deal that it changes my world view: I'm prepared, for the first time, to recommend first-time PDA buyers consider PocketPC as a reasonable alternative to the well-established Palm software."<br /><br />I can't wait to see a full quarter of Dell's sales numbers for this. The quarter ended December 2002 will only have 5 or 6 weeks of numbers. By March 2003, we may also have one or both of the rumored X3/X7 devices. I agree with the authors sentiments - this is a breakthrough for both Dell and the Pocket PC platform.

TopDog

01-05-2003, 03:19 PM

This article tells about some great things about the Axim. It has a CF-slot, buildt in microfone, speakers and a color-screen, it also has a fast xscale-CPU and an SD-slot...

Whow... thats amazing, no one else has this... NOT!!!

The only thing amazing about the Dell Axim5 is the price!

The article-writer obviosly has never tested a LOOX, E-200, e740 or an iPAQ with a CF-sleeve, who all have the same features, only more expensive...

alan williams

01-05-2003, 03:32 PM

There does seem to be a quiet media bias against PPC devices in general. Nice to see someone say, "Look, this one is pretty cool."

Ed Hansberry

01-05-2003, 03:40 PM

The only thing amazing about the Dell Axim5 is the price!
I think that was the whole point of the article. Today you can get for $300 the same thing that costs $600 3 months ago.

And as far as I know, the Axim is the first with a Tranflective screen and dual slots. Other transflective devices have one slot and dual slot devices have reflective screens.

heliod

01-05-2003, 03:41 PM

TopDog

The article-writer obviosly has never tested a LOOX, E-200, e740 or an iPAQ with a CF-sleeve, who all have the same features, only more expensive...

The Axim has a very attractive message comparing to each of the devices you say:

1. Price
2. No need to buy an add-on sleeve.
3. No size addition by the sleeve.

Each of the above by itself is nothing, but the combination of all 3 makes a great difference.

Foo Fighter

01-05-2003, 04:16 PM

Uh...guys? I hate to bust your bubble, but this is an old rehashed article from Mercury News which was posted here weeks ago:

http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/business/columnists/mike_langberg/4723919.htm

Sorry.

01-05-2003, 04:34 PM

I'm a Palm user and have never considered a PPC until now. Before I bought my Palm Vx I had owned a Psion and one of those HP WinCE 1.0 clamshell things (what a total waste of money that was).
My Palm has been great and I use it every day, but I'm now looking for more features so the Axim is very high on my list.
I must admit, that if the Tungsten T was more sensibly priced it would be top choice, I have a T68i phone so can use the built in BT, also the better integration with Word and Excel with DocsToGo.
However, the Axim with it's transflective screen, with a CF Bluetooth card provides me with everything I need at half the price of a new Ipaq.
I would probably have to buy a wordprocessor as well, is Textmaker the one with best integration with Word? Why doesn't MicroSoft make a proper office suite for the PPC?

The Big Jay

01-05-2003, 06:39 PM

"The Axim is such a good deal that it changes my world view: I'm prepared, for the first time, to recommend first-time PDA buyers consider PocketPC as a reasonable alternative to the well-established Palm software."

I can't wait to see a full quarter of Dell's sales numbers for this. The quarter ended December 2002 will only have 5 or 6 weeks of numbers. By March 2003, we may also have one or both of the rumored X3/X7 devices. I agree with the authors sentiments - this is a breakthrough for both Dell and the Pocket PC platform.

The price I think is the main factor here, and feature by feature the price is amazing. The price is what has been holding me back to buying one (PPC I mean).

Foo Fighter

01-05-2003, 07:00 PM

I can't wait to see a full quarter of Dell's sales numbers for this. The quarter ended December 2002 will only have 5 or 6 weeks of numbers.

I've been wondering about this myself. Unfortunately, while Dell will most likely release their numbers in their earnings report, many market analysis firms like NPD won't even count Dell in their studies. NPD in particular only tabulates retail sales data. So its up to IDC or Dataquest to compare volume levels and give us an idea of where Axim stacks up.

Ed Hansberry

01-05-2003, 07:01 PM

Uh...guys? I hate to bust your bubble, but this is an old rehashed article from Mercury News which was posted here weeks ago:

Well worth rehashing, eh? :lol: I found this via google. Didn't think to check our archives. Good chance I posted the first one too. :D

Foo Fighter

01-05-2003, 07:06 PM

Good chance I posted the first one too. :D

You did. I submitted it to you.

Steven Cedrone

01-05-2003, 07:09 PM

I looked through the archives, I can't find the original post. Oh well...

Steve

Janak Parekh

01-05-2003, 07:11 PM

You did. I submitted it to you.
Hah! Foo's upset because he didn't get credited this time around. :lol:

--janak

szamot

01-05-2003, 07:16 PM

If the price is the only good thing about the Dell, NOT, then all that means that if all other Pocket PC's were more sensibly priced more people would buy them. Which can lead to a conclusion that Palm is not better but just more accessible to the masses. Dell certainly will show that indeed it was the price that stopped people from making the switch or getting into the PPC game.

Rirath

01-05-2003, 07:21 PM

Whow... thats amazing, no one else has this...

Yeah I agree it's totally cool...

NOT!!!

Wha....what the?! H-hey! Arg... curse you and your fiendish cleverness. :roll: Well hey man, congrats on being rich okay? But well, I'm not. 1/2 price with all the same functionality means a heck of a lot to me.

JonnoB

01-05-2003, 07:39 PM

Foo Fighter

01-05-2003, 07:44 PM

Hah! Foo's upset because he didn't get credited this time around. :lol:

ME ME ME ME! It's all about me! I need validated, someone give me a hug! :cry: :)

Kati Compton

01-05-2003, 07:54 PM

For the uneducated, it always comes down to price - because they will not understand the benefit of the features. That is why people like my kid brother and grandmother (both without sophisticated computer/electronics knowledge) will find a Palm useful. But for those with a slightly larger capacity to understand the benefits will become easy converts once exposed.

Uh... What about the educated without the $?

Or just those that don't happen to need more than Palm gives them? They could be quite educated & smart, but just not as much of tech freaks as the rest of us. Educated, smart people can have hobbies that don't include computers.

Kati Compton

01-05-2003, 07:54 PM

ME ME ME ME! It's all about me! I need validated, someone give me a hug! :cry: :)

Isn't Janak the new Admin in charge of hugs?

TopDog

01-05-2003, 08:32 PM

Wha....what the?! H-hey! Arg... curse you and your fiendish cleverness. :roll: Well hey man, congrats on being rich okay? But well, I'm not. 1/2 price with all the same functionality means a heck of a lot to me.

I'm defenetly not rich... I just work with PPC's for a living :-)

I didn't mean to take down the Axim, I'm sure it's a great device (we can't get it here yet in Norway), I just wanted to point out that Dell have not envented the wheel or something here, they just sell it for a lot less, and that is great ;-)

Hope the Dell Axim sells A LOT so HP, Toshiba and the others will have to bring down their prices too...

PS: If I could get the Dell here in Norway, it would have been my device, it has everything I need (a CF-slot to my Audiovox RTM-8000 and AmbiCom WLAN and a SD-slot to my memory-card)...

Janak Parekh

01-05-2003, 09:20 PM

ME ME ME ME! It's all about me! I need validated, someone give me a hug! :cry: :)

Isn't Janak the new Admin in charge of hugs?
I didn't know I was... how about this? http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/f_hug.gif

;)

--janak

jeasher

01-05-2003, 09:31 PM

Wow, what a great article. That article does a great job at explaining why I switched from Palm to PocketPC. I'm very impressed with my h1910 and I would have bought an Axim if the form factor wasn't so poor. Remember, ex-Palm users like me never were power users, so we don't need the things Dell adds to the party. But I do dig those things. My next PDA will have everything the Axim has now but the size of the h1910.

Ed Hansberry

01-05-2003, 09:45 PM

I didn't know I was... how about this? http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/f_hug.gif

:pukeface:

:D

papasmurf

01-05-2003, 09:53 PM

Ed Hansberry

01-05-2003, 09:55 PM

The main negative I've heard about the Dell is that it's too big. I tried a Dell today at a Dell kiosk in the mall. I placed my Toshiba e330 directly on top of the Dell and it was as large as the Dell. In fact, where it tapers, the Dell was actually narrower. True, it's thicker, but it also has a cf slot. The Dell feels good in my hand also. Just my two cents.
Yeah, a lot of the pics of the Dell were put next to the h1910, and people were associating that device with the iPAQ, so the Dell looked gargantuan. The truth is the h1910 is really small and the Dell is about the same size as a normal iPAQ.

Jonathon Watkins

01-05-2003, 10:51 PM

BoiseNative

01-06-2003, 03:28 AM

Yeah, a lot of the pics of the Dell were put next to the h1910, and people were associating that device with the iPAQ, so the Dell looked gargantuan. The truth is the h1910 is really small and the Dell is about the same size as a normal iPAQ.

Yeah, to be fair to the Axim, you have to compare it in size to the 31xx, 36xx, 37xx, 38xx, etc iPaqs with the CF sleeve on since they don't have built-in CF slots.

So many people have called the Axim a brick, but as you can see it's smaller than the iPaq with the sleeve on.

http://home.mindspring.com/~enelson5/121-2104_IMG.JPGhttp://home.mindspring.com/~enelson5/121-2106_IMG.JPG
http://home.mindspring.com/~enelson5/121-2114_IMG.JPGhttp://home.mindspring.com/~enelson5/121-2121_IMG.JPG
http://home.mindspring.com/~enelson5/121-2122_IMG.JPGhttp://home.mindspring.com/~enelson5/121-2123_IMG.JPG
http://home.mindspring.com/~enelson5/121-2124_IMG.JPGhttp://home.mindspring.com/~enelson5/121-2125_IMG.JPG

Daniel

01-06-2003, 05:46 AM

I didn't know I was... how about this? http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/f_hug.gif
:pukeface:
:D

Look there are carrots in there and everything!

Yeah, to be fair to the Axim, you have to compare it in size to the 31xx, 36xx, 37xx, 38xx, etc iPaqs with the CF sleeve on since they don't have built-in CF slots.

Actually, that's not really "fair" either, you'd have to compare the Axim to another dual slot PPC, adding a CF slot still doesn't match the Axim.

Daniel

Kati Compton

01-06-2003, 07:01 AM

It depends on how picky you want to be with your comparison. There isn't any other PDA that has EXACTLY the same feature set, so it's hard to compare it to something. You could compare to the Toshiba e740, but then that doesn't have the nice screen. I think the 2 natural comparisons to make is to the e740, and then to the non-19xx iPaqs with AND without sleeve. Without to give people an idea of how the size compares to what they're used to, and with because while the iPaq doesn't naturally come with the CF slot, it has the capability to have one through the sleeve. With sleeve, the feature set gets much closer to the Axim....

kaiden.1

01-06-2003, 07:14 PM

Way to go DELL! They deserve it and have certianly earned it by right!!!

After all who else has been so awesome with their customer service, and down right customer Priced than DELL. They are the customers company; they look out for us, I can not think of anyone else who better deserves it than DELL.

And you can't balk at that!

Wish I had a DELL!