03-12-2008, 02:15 AM
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Mike Mace: "The iPhone SDK: Apple gets it right"
"I have time tonight for only a quick note on Apple's iPhone software developer kit announcement. Overall, it is deeply impressive how many things Apple got right. We still need to see more details on terms and conditions, and a lot will depend on Apple's execution, but here are the problems they appear to have solved..."
I think Mike Mace has hit the nail on some of the stuff Apple has done. By mobile stores' standards, 30% is a great cut, and having a centralized app store is a killer way of encouraging application adoption by end-users. The biggest downside of the iPhone--its closed and controlling parent company--can also be its biggest upside, as Apple can develop new solutions as quickly as they want. It remains to be seen how well the SDK works, and some of the limitations, such as "one app at a time", worry me. Still, I suspect it's going to be a great success, and I would have liked Microsoft to come up with mobile downloads a long time ago. They certainly had the technology. :|
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03-12-2008, 03:44 PM
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There are now very few reason to develop for Windows Mobile :cry: Apple's approach has been a revelation. Even I am now hooked up with OSX and an iPhone ...
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03-12-2008, 04:48 PM
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Actually WinMobile 6 has an on-device app store too. But it was optional and all OEMs seem to have removed them. Pity.
But yeah, the SDK rocks. And frankly, so does XCode 3.1. There are some really cool things you can do that make using apps so much better. Can't talk about them, unfortunately, but these aren't gimmicks or flash - really productive stuff.
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03-12-2008, 06:00 PM
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This just may put the final nail in the coffin for Windows Mobile sad to say. RIP Windows Mobile :cry:
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03-12-2008, 06:16 PM
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Does it all for cut and paste now? Or the Bluetooth HID profile (for an external keyboard)? So far, those are the utter deal-killers for me with this device.
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03-12-2008, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dommasters
There are now very few reason to develop for Windows Mobile :cry: Apple's approach has been a revelation. Even I am now hooked up with OSX and an iPhone ...
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It's very ineresting how different average user, not so knowledgable in tech details and tech blogger can be! :roll: The reason for that conclusion is my own experience. This Monday I had a business meeting. People there were bankers, lawyers, pretty much have nothing to do with high tech. On a coffee brake one of them, a man in his thirties start showing off his new shiny iPhone, all those jestures, maps on the internet and so on. I just had to put my 2 cents in there :twisted: I took out my 2 years old Mio A701 customized with SPB Mobile Shell 2, PocketCM (freeware) keyboard and Contacts, and MS Voice Commander. So I showed how nice SPB Shell animotions are, very sensitive Sirf III GPS along with FREE Live Search, PocketCM keyboard with ability to add words to library, and not ONLY in English, handwriting with Transcriber, Contact search options with Mobile Shell and PocketCM, and when I start "talking" to the phone using Voice Commander, asking things like my next oppointment, battery status, dail a number, that stall the show. I had to give interested people, Expansives website address, refer them to PocketGear.com, and PocketCM for customization options and got myself a few potential clients. :lol: So, the point is, well customized and handled 2 year old WM 5 phone can beat brand new iPhone hands down in a real world, not on the tech blogs, of course. 0X The iPhone is just a trendy device. And BTW, My mio was pretty stable, untill I start loading it with 3rd party software. Let's see how iPhone will handle all those new upcomming soft, before we jump to conclusions who is better and who will survive or die. Cheers.
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03-12-2008, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by virain
I had to give interested people, Expansives website address, refer them to PocketGear.com, and PocketCM for customization options and got myself a few potential clients.
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Motricity, the parent company of PocketGear, is trying to unload PocketGear. PocketGear may not be around much longer. Buying iPhone software will be as quick and easy as buying music, TV shows and movies from the iTunes Store. Apple can support the iPhone without interference from carriers. As a result there's no carrier crapware on the iPhone just like Macs are free of manufacturer-installed crapware.
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03-12-2008, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by wshwe
http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/7...ll-pocketgear/
Motricity, the parent company of PocketGear, is trying to unload PocketGear. PocketGear may not be around much longer. Buying iPhone software will be as quick and easy as buying music, TV shows and movies from the iTunes Store. Apple can support the iPhone without interference from carriers. As a result there's no carrier crapware on the iPhone just like Macs are free of manufacturer-installed crapware.
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PocketGear is not the ONLY store where you can buy soft for WM, it's just my favorite :wink: But when iTunes are down they are down, not that easy to buy any music, video or other OVERPRICED stuff from them. just search engadget for articles on that "wonderful" apple store. 0X
And of course, there's no manufacturer's crapware on Apple devices 'cause Apple is the manufacturer, so the only crap there is Apple's own, such as, aaaah, let me think... iTunes! for example 
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03-12-2008, 08:24 PM
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Boy where to begin? I too am not ready to let go of my windows mobile device for my personal use. There are just too many things I do with it daily that the iPhone cannot do - yet. But I cannot deny the momentum behind the iPhone / iTouch platform. They really nailed it on the first try. I am frustrated that Microsoft didn't attempt improve the UI or fix the nagging problems in all these many years. There is no technical reason that Window Mobile couldn't be as slick and easy to use as the iPhone. Even complaining from within MS (before I left) didn't create any action on the pocket IE and other fronts. It seems they can only be motivated by actual outside /competition.
I give up. I bought my first Mac this weekend, and I've been pouring through the iPhone SDK ever since. I see the iPhone as a new canvas on which I can paint all the ideas that I used to target at Windows Mobile. The big difference here is that the iPhone platform is a consumer device and it has momentum. As a small developer you will be able to get your product in front of the masses and actually have a chance to sell some real quantities. -Not so with the niche WM market. -Especially not with the the Pocket PC form factor that has become a niche within a niche.
I may not personally use an iPhone as my mobile platform (yet), but that doesn't mean I can't capitalize on its rising popularity. And really once you use Safari on the iPhone, you can never look at your WM device the same way again.
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03-12-2008, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dommasters
There are now very few reason to develop for Windows Mobile :cry: Apple's approach has been a revelation. Even I am now hooked up with OSX and an iPhone ...
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It's very ineresting how different average user, not so knowledgable in tech details and tech blogger can be! :roll: The reason for that conclusion is my own experience. This Monday I had a business meeting...Cheers. |
I was about to agree with the poster that you quoted, that was until I read your post. I was about to say that with the new sdk I was going to now switch over, because I�m sure someone would write an RDP application (which I use when I am on call (way more efficient than whipping out my laptop)), but you reminded me of so much more options on windows mobile that I kind of forgot about because I�m so used to it.
I wake up in the morning and I tell my device what album to play (while my eyes are still blurry) I respond to a couple emails during breakfast on my stowaway Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. I read up some current events �directly on my today screen� via my RSS catcher. And there�s still so much more, like the generous keyboard on my Vodafone v1650 that I allows me to type much quicker and more efficiently using �both hands� as I walk through the mall.
The iPhone is without a doubt an breakthrough device, but I�m not ready to convert just yet.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR GREAT POST!!!!!!
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