09-26-2005, 02:00 PM
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Magi
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PC World Ponders What the Windows-Powered Treo Means for Palm
"So it all comes down to this: It seems a dead certainty that Palm, the scrappy and innovative company that successfully challenged Microsoft in the mobile world for a decade, will be announcing the Treo 700W, a Windows-based Treo smartphone, on Monday. It's a major moment. And it leaves me with a few questions. Lots and lots of them, actually... "
Harry McCracken of PC World speculates on what the new Windows Mobile-powered Treo means for the future of Palm and the Palm OS. Poor Harry. I think he was shedding tears as he was writing this. For instance, his first question asks if there will be anything special about this device. Part of his answer shows him to be rather critical of the fact that the Windows Mobile OS is basically the same predictable OS on every device. Eh? That's a bad thing? Let's flip this script for a second. Hasn't the same "uniqueness" seen in today's Palm OS devices been the source of device driver and application issues? Oh, speaking of 3rd-party, Harry also goes on to moan over the "skimpy" selection of Windows Mobile 3rd-party apps compared to Palm. What? Oh yeah, I remember this argument... uhhh... like three years ago!! I think it's time for Harry to put down that peace pipe! Or perhaps I'm just too blinded in my use of Windows Mobile to see his point? Give it a read and gives us your thoughts!
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09-26-2005, 02:16 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Okay, clearly I'm missing the point here...
Having the same OS run on all these devices is a bad thing? 8O
Making it easy to go from one device to another - much like an HP to a Dell - is even worse because you will know where everything is located right off? 8O
And I do believe the author needs to go and learn how to use Google and do a simple, three-word search: Pocket PC Software. There are more than a scarce few applications out there my friend.
This is both sad and humorous at the same time. I am sure that this is a culture shock to the Palm-types out there and as this article proves, some are not really thrilled with all of this. That is understandable.
The PalmOS is good and it has its highpoints. But my gosh, the difference in functionality is night and day comparied to a Windows Mobile device.
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09-26-2005, 02:47 PM
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Did you ever read articles from authors that "just didn't get it?". This is a perfect example.
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09-26-2005, 03:08 PM
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Thinker
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Re: PC World Ponders What the Windows-Powered Treo Means for Palm
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Originally Posted by Ekkie Tepsupornchai
Harry McCracken of PC World speculates on what the new Windows ... Or perhaps I'm just too blinded in my use of Windows Mobile to see his point? Give it a read and gives us your thoughts!
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No I don't think that you're too blinded and this piece doesn't sound like a Palm diatribe from someone willing to go down fighting. While I do read his columns from time to time and I do find him to be very readable I was very surprised though with this article since I felt that it was a total lack of knowledge of current events and of what's going on in both the PPC and Palm worlds. I would have thought that since he is a columnist for PC World that he would have kept more up to date on what's happening lately. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion but this just seems to be a disconnected dataset still in memory for 10 years and not based on any general knowledge of what's happening out there.
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Originally Posted by Ekkie Tepsupornchai
... Oh, speaking of 3rd-party, Harry also goes on to moan over the "skimpy" selection of Windows Mobile 3rd-party apps compared to Palm. What? Oh yeah
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09-26-2005, 04:00 PM
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09-26-2005, 04:02 PM
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Mystic
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As I read the article it sounded more like an old man befuddled and saddened about the end of the Big Band era. :roll:
Its ridiculus that a journalist would not have more knowledge about "the other side". I'm no expert on the PalmOS but I know a little.
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09-26-2005, 04:10 PM
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I was shocked as much by the comments as by the article. The proportion of people who refuse to even consider using Windows Mobile because it is made by Microsoft is just amazing, as is the magnitude of their disgust. Many do not even seem to understand the difference between Windows and Windows Mobile. And then there was the highlight of all the comments: a person made sick to his stomach by the thought of a WM Treo but rationalizing it as a good business move by Palm to lessen the influence of RIM, since the minor player Microsoft is largely overshadowed by those two majors.
Now, I have no great loyalty to Windows Mobile. I like it because it is a multitasking handheld OS, and because it is very easy to develop applications for (resulting in a very large and diverse set of available applications that can fit all of my needs). Nor do I have a hatred of PalmOS, although I would not be satisfied by it. But since when was Microsoft not a major player in the mobile OS market? Last time I checked, Symbian was the leader, with Microsoft and RIM lagging well behind and Palm struggling to get by on Treos. Please, somebody correct me if I'm wrong or tell me that the article and its comments are a joke that I didn't get. I try to stay current on news about handhelds, and I know how passionate people get about Palm, but there is an awful lot of misinformation on that page... especially for being written by the Editor in Chief of a significant technology magazine.
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09-26-2005, 05:29 PM
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Theorist
Join Date: Jul 2003
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:lol: :lol: This is kind of funny. I just posted an article at my site about the same thing, just another writer:
http://smartmobileassets.com/cgi-bin...s,m=1127679491
Same kind of problem here; they seem to just keep rehashing the same tripe over and over. Somebody needs to take ALL of their tech away, put a Windows Mobile device in their hands and lock the door for a month!! 8)
Well...I suppose someone should feed them from time to time. :way to go:
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09-26-2005, 08:13 PM
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Mystic
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It all seems to have that absurd feeling like when you run into someone who is still comparing OSX to Windows 3.1 or Win98
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09-26-2005, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gibson042
I was shocked as much by the comments as by the article. The proportion of people who refuse to even consider using Windows Mobile because it is made by Microsoft is just amazing, as is the magnitude of their disgust.
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yeah, the blind hatred of anything Microsoft is so stupid these days its not even funny. of course those of us with jobs that work for a living realize that you can sit there all day and spout such vitriol, or you can learn to use what is the most popular OS platform in the world.
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