06-28-2005, 08:00 PM
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Samsung i730 Appears On Verizon's Website
"The Samsung SCH-i730 is a Pocket PC Phone featuring Windows MobileTM 2003 Pocket PC Phone 2nd Edition software. It's equipped with 1x/EVDO digital download capabilities, has Bluetooth� wireless technology and Wi-Fi capabilities. The i730 also has a built-in sliding QWERTY keyboard, dual speakers, SD I/O slot and speakerphone. It's built for people who mean business."
Samsung's i730 has made it onto Verizon's website; I don't know if this means if it's available for consumers or not yet. The pricing is the same as the one we mentioned before -- $599 with 2-year contract, $649 with 1-year contract. The good news is that Wi-Fi is in there. The bad news is that the Bluetooth is restricted. Verizon has documented this on a special Bluetooth section of their website; in particular, they have a chart of devices and profiles. The i730's glaring omissions include DUN, LAN and PAN profiles. Why is beyond me -- the XV6600 has them and supports EVDO, so what exactly is Verizon thinking? Cripple the more attractive and expensive of the two devices so that people go for the cheaper one? :evil:
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06-28-2005, 08:53 PM
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Magi
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Unbelievable! I hate it when carriers get draconian and decide to cripple devices. What's worse is that I can't see a clear reason as to why they'd make this decision from a corporate level.
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06-28-2005, 09:10 PM
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Thinker
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Anyone know if the alleged "loophole" accessing the Internet via 1xRTT ExpressNetwork from the minutes (and free nights & weekends) has been closed by Verizon Wireless? It was fun being able to surf without having to pay an extravagant fee for it on my SPH-i700.
Oh, and good luck when it comes to firmware updates or Windows Mobile 5.0 upgradability. The fiasco with the Samsung, Verizon Wireless, the i700 and WM2k3SE still has me twitching and waking up with a cold sweat in the middle of the night. 8O
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06-28-2005, 09:12 PM
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Wow, crippling the device like that is a really bad idea. I'll be waiting for the i750, so I won't get mine through Verizon. Whew!
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06-28-2005, 09:44 PM
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Mystic
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Its possible that they originally ordered them crippled and didn't have enough time to have Samsung reverse the damage.
Wasn't there a ROM update for the 6600 to un-cripple it? Perhaps the Samsung will also have one. Later.
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06-28-2005, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ekkie Tepsupornchai
Unbelievable! I hate it when carriers get draconian and decide to cripple devices. What's worse is that I can't see a clear reason as to why they'd make this decision from a corporate level.
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Reason #2 why Verizon will never have me as a customer. I think it is utterly rediculous for them to get a device from a company and then manipulate the software so it won't operate as it should. That's plain old sabotage in my book. If Samsung's i730 doesn't sell as expected then it is purely Verizon's fault. To bad there isn't one for Cingular or T-Mobile, at least they only add software.
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06-28-2005, 10:26 PM
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part of this is VzW's problem with power users. they don't like them... I'd love to hear the name of 1 VzW employee who is comfortable in supporting any Blackberry, Palm, or PPC. I doubt you'll get many at all. If you don't use their devices their way, then they don't necessarily know what to do with you.
also, this is a control trip for them. They don't want a lot of traffic on their EV-DO network. The less traffic, the more bandwidth they appear to have available. WAP browsers don't use a lot of bandwidth compared to desktop browsers who use too much (by comparrison...).
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06-28-2005, 10:46 PM
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Intellectual
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Re: Samsung i730 Appears On Verizon's Website
The i730's glaring omissions include DUN, LAN and PAN profiles.
What do they mean? By omission, how does that make this a less desirable device? I appreciate knowledgeable input.
Thank you
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06-28-2005, 10:56 PM
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Magi
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Re: Samsung i730 Appears On Verizon's Website
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Originally Posted by palur
The i730's glaring omissions include DUN, LAN and PAN profiles.
What do they mean? By omission, how does that make this a less desirable device? I appreciate knowledgeable input.
Thank you
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Well, part of the device's lure is the Bluetooth support and when it comes to cellphones, that means being able to use your cellphone as a high-speed wireless modem for your laptop / PC (or PDA if you're carrying a 2nd one around). Nearly all phones with Bluetooth support can be utilized in this manner. But since this device does not support the DUN profile (Dial-Up Networking), it takes away from one of the great features of Bluetooth with cellphones. I can't speak for the LAN and PAN profiles as I don't use either very often (unless PAN includes file/object transfer), but crippling the DUN profile is HUGE!!
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06-28-2005, 11:09 PM
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Theorist
Join Date: Mar 2003
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I hate to say it, but I said so.
If Verizon crippled their BT before, what's to stop them from doing it now because majority of people are ignorant of BT's capabilities. I think we are still a minority and the ignorance of everybody else is status quo. Just suck it up and buy it.
I won't .... 
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