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Old 05-25-2005, 04:00 PM
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Default Lens Evolution: A Better Camera For Your Phone / PPC?

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto...cro_camera_lens

"Quebec researchers have created a new lens they say could revolutionize photography by allowing the smallest cameras to take crystal-clear zoom photos. The new lens, five times thinner than a sheet of paper, can zoom and focus with no moving parts, potentially eliminating the distortion caused by digital zoom and the bulky glass of conventional optical lens."

Who hasn't been psyched to get a phone with a camera (or PPC) with camera feature, thinking that they will now be able to capture all those moments we wish we had our digital cameras for? Probably not many. To most, the camera in cameraphone was a nice feature, until they saw the pictures produced by it. I can count on 1 hand the amount of times I've used the camera in my iPAQ 6315, and probably only took about a dozen pictures on my i-mate pocket pc when I had it. The painful truth is, the cameras aren't that good, but with this new lens under development, we may see some improved quality in the future. After all, what good is a camera that takes pictures we aren't proud to show off!
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Old 05-25-2005, 04:59 PM
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[i]"...The new lens, five times thinner than a sheet of paper....
I wonder how they do that. Let's see...one-half thinner than a piece paper makes sense, but wouldn't one times thinner -- or 100 percent thinner -- be thin air? And what would five times thinner end up being?
 
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Old 05-25-2005, 08:48 PM
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The paper is thin to begin with, so five times thinner is one-fifth as thick as the already thin paper.

(btw, one-half thinner would seem to me to mean half as thin, ie, twice as thick.)
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Old 05-26-2005, 03:22 AM
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The paper is thin to begin with, so five times thinner is one-fifth as thick as the already thin paper.

(btw, one-half thinner would seem to me to mean half as thin, ie, twice as thick.)
It's petty, of course, but my point is that 50% thinner would be half as thick, 99% thinner would be 1% as thick, and 100% thinner would be zero thickness. So you couldn't ever get to 5 times thinner. "One-fifth as thick" would be the way to say what's intended, not 5 times as thin, or 500% as thin. Am I wrong?
 
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Old 05-26-2005, 06:29 AM
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imo this is a case of semantics. we're likely both right, depending on the point of view taken.
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Old 05-26-2005, 07:51 AM
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You're right, but sometimes it's fun to argue semantics instead of doing real work.
 
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Old 05-27-2005, 01:14 AM
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You're right, but sometimes it's fun to argue semantics instead of doing real work.
:wink: So does PPCT = Pedants Pick Compelling Topics?

I still would prefer my PPC not to have any optics in then though.....
 
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Old 05-27-2005, 02:04 AM
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You're right, but sometimes it's fun to argue semantics instead of doing real work.
:wink: So does PPCT = Pedants Pick Compelling Topics?

I still would prefer my PPC not to have any optics in then though.....
I agree. Infinitely thin optics would be okay, though...
 
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Old 05-27-2005, 02:17 AM
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Infinitely thin optics would be okay, though...
I was meaning that I don't want any camera in a PPC. :wink: I like taking my PPC everywhere and there are increasing numbers of places that stop you from taking cameras in.
 
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Old 05-27-2005, 03:07 AM
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That was my point. I don't want a camera on my PPC either. A lense that's 5 times thinner than paper would not exist -- hence, no camera. Perfect.
 
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