03-05-2005, 02:34 PM
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wow how nice!
erm... NOT
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
one more Goofy HP product
keep up people "love them"; it keeps them alive to continue making stupid products
0X :devilboy:
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03-05-2005, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NLS
wow how nice!
erm... NOT
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
one more Goofy HP product
keep up people "love them"; it keeps them alive to continue making stupid products
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That's what I have been saying, if we keep going WOW every time a scrap of garbage falls of the HP "design" table they will keep producing mediocre devices in hopes of satisfying mediocre minds. We are our worse enemies.
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03-05-2005, 06:28 PM
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Intellectual
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why "unfortunately"?
ah you are called ipaqman, figures 
for me there no such thing in open market... they suck, I'll choose something else, as simple as that
to put it in perspective, LOOX 720 is everything I wanted from a PDA, 4700 is far from that, I got the first; MDA4 is probably what I wanted from a Phone-PDA, this cr*p or 6300-something is far from that, I'll get MDA4 (if I am out in the market for PDA-phone - which I am not)
the "perfect" PDA+phone for me (today) would be an MDA4 with even better battery, CF AND SD, bundled with a very smart bluetooth hands-free, that allows for: Caller-ID, SMS reading ON it directly, other information messages (MSN too), vibration, normal ringtones as set on the main device (including wavs/MP3 etc.), speakerphone (yes I am still talking about the hands free) - this is the only way I would bear to have such a big "phone" ...we are going there fast (HP not, of course), since there is already a hands-free doing half of the above and a PDA-Phone doing 90% of the above... late 2005 probably when we'll have something like this (and we all know what brand this will NOT be)
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03-05-2005, 06:45 PM
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240x240... hehehe 57600 pixels hohohohoho
so Palm-yesterday from HP... so HP from HP
I know of MANY smartphones (not claiming to be PDA at all) with better resolution
will somebody kill the HP PDA Dept. manager or what?
(when there are still sheep customers that would buy anything from HP, then no)
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03-05-2005, 09:10 PM
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Intellectual
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ah... so some people begin to realise what I am saying for years (since Compaq 36xx days)
better late than never
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03-05-2005, 09:43 PM
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I won't ask why :twisted:
your money anyway, your choice
One more "hit" from the company that had the only 4096 colour PocketPC when all other had 64K, never said so directly to their customers, the only company that made a PocketPC with NO expansion except sleeves when the majority of the rest had dual expansion slots already (and when the company managed to add SD on the huge device their customers partied all night), the only company that sold PocketPC with non-removable battery when all others had removable and extended versions, the only company that their once top-model was much bugier than their low end, the only company that so provokingly REALLY dumps a device when the next comes out, the only company that manages to sell crap inventions that if they had the label "iTaiwan" nobody would give them a second look, but with THEIR label they manage to make people like them, the only company that manages to sell under-featured devices at premium price and manages to have huge penetration in the Enterprise and chain stores, brainwashing people from all sides.
(just to remind the past that never changed radicaly anyway)
I wonder what will be their next design... a grayscale PocketPC with 32MB RAM, xD slot and a new HP invention, something called "bar code reader"? I am sure with "HP" on it many of you people will love it.
It's getting embarasing.
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03-06-2005, 12:18 AM
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why "unfortunately"?
ah you are called ipaqman, figures
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In my line of work I deal more with PDAs in one week than most people would deal probably in their life time, that also includes IT administrators who deploy PDAs in their work environment and my opinions I offer are still mine own, but I can honestly say there is a lot of hard facts to back it up. Thumb boards is where it's going for any smart phone device that allows you to check and respond to emails and or browse the web - plain and simple. While at my work we do see Pocket PCs / smart phones with out thumb boards the numbers are insignificant in compared to the Blackberries, Treo's, and even Pocket PCs (mainly the XDA IIIs) which do have thumb boards.
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... (if I am out in the market for PDA-phone - which I am not)...
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Than I guess this topic isn't or even this thread is for you.
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03-06-2005, 12:46 AM
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I won't ask why :twisted:
your money anyway, your choice
One more "hit" from the company that had the only 4096 colour PocketPC when all other had 64K, never said so directly to their customers, the only company that made a PocketPC with NO expansion except sleeves when the majority of the rest had dual expansion slots already (and when the company managed to add SD on the huge device their customers partied all night), the only company that sold PocketPC with non-removable battery when all others had removable and extended versions, the only company that their once top-model was much bugier than their low end, the only company that so provokingly REALLY dumps a device when the next comes out, the only company that manages to sell crap inventions that if they had the label "iTaiwan" nobody would give them a second look, but with THEIR label they manage to make people like them, the only company that manages to sell under-featured devices at premium price and manages to have huge penetration in the Enterprise and chain stores, brainwashing people from all sides.
(just to remind the past that never changed radicaly anyway)
I wonder what will be their next design... a grayscale PocketPC with 32MB RAM, xD slot and a new HP invention, something called "bar code reader"? I am sure with "HP" on it many of you people will love it.
It's getting embarasing.
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Well said NLS!
I would agree as well with the poster who said that there were some good HP products. I have a 4150 that I will never dispose of. I also had a 2200 which was excellent, and the 3650 is what really set us all down this path....but in between there sure was/is a lot of iCrap!
Dave
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03-06-2005, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by NLS
I won't ask why :twisted:
your money anyway, your choice
One more "hit" from the company that had the only 4096 colour PocketPC when all other had 64K, never said so directly to their customers, the only company that made a PocketPC with NO expansion except sleeves when the majority of the rest had dual expansion slots already (and when the company managed to add SD on the huge device their customers partied all night), the only company that sold PocketPC with non-removable battery when all others had removable and extended versions, the only company that their once top-model was much bugier than their low end, the only company that so provokingly REALLY dumps a device when the next comes out, the only company that manages to sell crap inventions that if they had the label "iTaiwan" nobody would give them a second look, but with THEIR label they manage to make people like them, the only company that manages to sell under-featured devices at premium price and manages to have huge penetration in the Enterprise and chain stores, brainwashing people from all sides.
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Who are you ranting about? HP had built in CF in the 500 series Jornada and only 12 bit color screens, and the 560 had a removable battery, though the 520 and 540 didn't. Compaq had 12 bit screens too. they added SD in the fall of 2001 with the 3800. Who, by then, had DUAL memory cards? Who has it now? My 2 year old HP 2210 has dual slots but my new PDA2k doesn't.
It sounds like you are wrapping all of HP and Compaq into one mix them formulating a rant by picking out the things you don't like. :roll:
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03-06-2005, 01:34 AM
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Magi
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the only company that made a PocketPC with NO expansion except sleeves when the majority of the rest had dual expansion slots already (and when the company managed to add SD on the huge device their customers partied all night)
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Technically you're referring to Compaq right? If I recall correctly, the iPaq 36xx/37xx line was competing against HP's 520 series Jornada and the Casio EM-500/E-125. In any case, remind me which of those product lines supported "dual expansion slots" because:
1) I only seemed to remember that the E125 supported CF and the EM500 only supported MMC/SD
2) the next iPaq line (38xx) did support SD.
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the only company that so provokingly REALLY dumps a device when the next comes out
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Ever hear of Toshiba?
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the only company that manages to sell crap inventions that if they had the label "iTaiwan" nobody would give them a second look
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Like what for example? I can't recall anything that would resemble an invention w/ exception for the fingerprint scanner and I was just in CompUSA and saw that both Microsoft and APC are now selling separate fingerprint modules for the PC... seems like this technology is getting a "second look" I would say.
But you do mention INVENTIONS (plural), which means there were multiple? What were the others?
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manages to sell under-featured devices at premium price and manages to have huge penetration in the Enterprise and chain stores, brainwashing people from all sides.
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I don't know about that. My previous 2215 came at a competitive price and was as fully featured of a PPC that I could find at that time. As for my current 4700, the only complaint I can think of is that it doesn't sport 128MB RAM, but neither did any other competing devices at the time I picked it up. In addition, I have BT / WiFi / Dual-Slots / 128MB ROM / 4" VGA screen...
How is that underfeatured? Where is the brainwashing?
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I wonder what will be their next design... a grayscale PocketPC with 32MB RAM, xD slot and a new HP invention, something called "bar code reader"? I am sure with "HP" on it many of you people will love it.
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So you're implying that future models will degrade in color, reduce in memory, and introduce a memory slot that no one wants or uses?
My memory is foggy. Can you tell me which previous HP/Compaq PPC has followed those trend in the past?
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It's getting embarasing.
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Well, perhaps we should try sticking to the facts. What do you say? 
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