03-05-2005, 12:00 AM
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Magi
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,386
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Tentative Specifications on HP Mobile Messenger HW6500/6700
Mobile-Review have reported on what they call "tentative data" with regards to the duo of couple of upcoming HP PPCPE devices: the HW6515 and the HW6715. Looking at the specs, both would appear to be fairly similar sporting a 520 MHz Intel xScale PXA270 processor, 240x240 screen, 4-band GSM + EDGE, 64MB DRAM, 64MB ROM, 1.3Mpx Camera, integrated GPS, and mini-SD slot. The main difference seems to be that the HW6515 comes with an additional SD/MMC slot but no WiFi, while the HW6715 comes with built-in WiFi but no additional SD/MMC slot. Hmmm... GSM, GPS, AND WiFi? Sounds tasty! 
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03-05-2005, 12:03 AM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 77
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The 240x240 screen just kills it for me. Should've been 480x480. I'll stick with my i-mate JAM for now. Otherwise a great device. Almost makes up for the 6315.
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03-05-2005, 12:05 AM
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Philosopher
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 533
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WOW....I had dismissed this PDA because of its lack of integrated WiFi.....but now: integrated Bluetooth, GPS, and Wifi? Its at the top of my list all of a sudden.
What's more important to me: VGA or integrated GPS.......honestly, I think the integrated GPS is more important. Any release date?
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03-05-2005, 12:17 AM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 102
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Originally Posted by bradolson
The 240x240 screen just kills it for me. Should've been 480x480. I'll stick with my i-mate JAM for now. Otherwise a great device. Almost makes up for the 6315.
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Sorry being killjoy, but there is no such format like 480x480 in Windows Mobile Second Edition, there are only: 240x240, 320x240 and 640x480. So even if HP could do it, they couldn't.
Anyway: built-in GPS makes up well for the smaller screen size. The only problem is that this phone won't be cheap (700 Euro = 800 USD) and it will be late (model with Wi-Fi after summer, the model without Wi-Fi but instead with 2 card slot in May).
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03-05-2005, 12:49 AM
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Sage
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 676
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Sorry being killjoy, but there is no such format like 480x480 in Windows Mobile Second Edition, there are only: 240x240, 320x240 and 640x480.
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Are you sure about that? Microsoft has released WM 2003 SE emulators for VGA Square (480x480). It's simply the 192 DPI version of 240x240 square.
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03-05-2005, 01:00 AM
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Developer & Designer, News Editor Emeritus
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,959
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Originally Posted by Dyvim
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Sorry being killjoy, but there is no such format like 480x480 in Windows Mobile Second Edition, there are only: 240x240, 320x240 and 640x480.
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Are you sure about that? Microsoft has released WM 2003 SE emulators for VGA Square (480x480). It's simply the 192 DPI version of 240x240 square. |
You are correct. WM2003SE is supposed to support square screen resolutions: 240x240 @ 96dpi and 480x480 @ 192dpi. I'm not sure how the misunderstanding earlier came about. :?
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03-05-2005, 01:09 AM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 102
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I was wrong  ops: - indeed there is 480x480 in WM2003SE. What a pity that HP is not taking advantage of it! :?
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03-05-2005, 01:21 AM
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Magi
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,341
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This looks like it could be a good device, now that it looks more definite that there will be a WiFi version. I have one worry though....I wonder how many of those messages we are getting while installing new software that says that it may not appear properly are because it doesn't support square screens. Am I wrong in assuming that most software will NOT run on this device's square screen.......Please, please, please, someone tell me, and convince me I'm wrong??!!
Dave
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03-05-2005, 01:37 AM
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Developer & Designer, News Editor Emeritus
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,959
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Originally Posted by Paragon
Am I wrong in assuming that most software will NOT run on this device's square screen.......Please, please, please, someone tell me, and convince me I'm wrong??!!
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Unless the programs have been hard-coded for 240x320 screens, I think it's safe to say that most will work, since it will be able to detect the screen resolution, and stretch to fit it (much like how many of the programs out there work in landscape mode and/or on a VGA resolution). No guarantees of course. I honestly question how usable it will be in 240x240. Especially when your input plugin takes up half the screen space. :roll: 480x480 is the way to go, IMO.
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03-05-2005, 01:43 AM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 176
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Originally Posted by Darius Wey
Especially when your input plugin takes up half the screen space. :roll: 480x480 is the way to go, IMO.
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Isn't part of the point of having a built-in keyboard not having to have the input bar showing? It would seem that the effective displayed data on a 240x240 screen would then be pretty close to a 320x240 with the input bar showing.
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