11-26-2004, 11:00 PM
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Dell Asking PalmOne For WM Treo?
"Nothing is certain yet, but the rumors of PalmOne�s decision to make a Treo running Windows Mobile won�t die. The latest rumors have Dell pressing PalmOne to make a Treo with a Microsoft engine so that Dell can turn around and sell it to their enterprise users. With wireless PDA�s like Dell�s Axim largely a stagnant-or disappearing-market, Dell would like nothing more than to offer its customers the best smartphone on the market, without having to hassle with the FCC or waste time developing one on their own. It makes sense for PalmOne as well, a company that needs to start actively courting the enterprise market-or risk losing even more ground to RIM. Dell would be a great partner for PalmOne to use to get into the enterprise space. Most importantly, says Gartner analyst Ken Dulaney, is that this is what the market really wants: A device that looks and acts a lot like a Blackberry, but that runs the PocketPC/Windows Mobile engine."
We reported on some of these rumors a while back, but this one is more extensive. I have no idea if it's true or not, but it's certainly intriguing. The Blackberry has become a runaway success -- I see people with Blackberries everywhere in New York. What I'd love to have is a mobile PDA with the formfactor of a Treo, the always-on nature of a Blackberry, and the Pocket PC OS enabling PIM and 3rd-party applications, and it sounds like something similar is being targeted here.
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11-27-2004, 12:51 AM
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The Best advantage of TREO is the Palm OS itself, I do not see any advantage VS PDA2K, O2 IIs, O2III, etc, having Windows CE OS.
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11-27-2004, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by saljamex
The Best advantage of TREO is the Palm OS itself, I do not see any advantage VS PDA2K, O2 IIs, O2III, etc, having Windows CE OS.
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That's one opinion.  I know I speak for myself and several others when I say that's the Treo's one disadvantage...
--janak
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11-27-2004, 12:59 AM
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http://www.treocentral.com/content/Stories/493-1.htm
Looks like palm one is reading the writing on the wall. It will be a sad to see palmsource and the palm os die. IMO it does what it does very well and definately deserves a place in the market. Acuatally I don't see why all three devices couldn't co-exist? Palm for simple pim, WM for multimedia and more and Linux the alternative folks. All built around the treo form factor. Seems
plausable.
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11-27-2004, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Janak Parekh
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Originally Posted by saljamex
The Best advantage of TREO is the Palm OS itself, I do not see any advantage VS PDA2K, O2 IIs, O2III, etc, having Windows CE OS.
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That's one opinion. I know I speak for myself and several others when I say that's the Treo's one disadvantage...
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Exactly, why buy TREO when you already have better options (More RAM, beter processor,etc)
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11-27-2004, 01:21 AM
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Treo
This sounds like a real winner to me. I would expect Dell and Palm would both make out well with this, and I would certainly strongly consider a "Dell Treo" for my next device. (I will have to wait a while though after just getting an hx4700. Maybe this will be a reality next year.)
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11-27-2004, 01:48 AM
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This sounds like Gartner is trying to kill the Treo by spreading FUD. It must be very damaging to palmsource and their stock price when rumours like this go around.
It does not even make sense, as it would certainly take a lot of development to make a Treo run WM, and it would likely need to be re-certified again.
Also one of the main reasons people dont like the Treo is absence of wifi. This wont be magically added if they change the OS. Again it would need to be recertified by the FCC.
So either Gartner is filled with idiots, or they are intentionally spreading damaging romours....
Surur
PS: The last time I used a palm was 4 years ago. I just cant stand such underhanded behaviour.
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11-27-2004, 02:19 AM
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Re: Dell Asking PalmOne For WM Treo?
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[i]With wireless PDA�s like Dell�s Axim largely a stagnant-or disappearing-market
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I guess no one mentioned to these guys that handheld shipments are up 13% for the last quarter, they're still two to three times the shipments of smartphones, and that Dell alone was up by 30%.
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11-27-2004, 04:06 AM
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Re: Dell Asking PalmOne For WM Treo?
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Originally Posted by ADBrown
I guess no one mentioned to these guys that handheld shipments are up 13% for the last quarter, they're still two to three times the shipments of smartphones, and that Dell alone was up by 30%.
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Statistics are colluding - it's driving me nuts! 
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11-27-2004, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by saljamex
Exactly, why buy TREO when you already have better options (More RAM, beter processor,etc)
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Observe I said the Treo's formfactor, more than anything else. The BenQ P50, if it ever comes out, may solve the problem via a third party.
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Originally Posted by Surur
It does not even make sense, as it would certainly take a lot of development to make a Treo run WM, and it would likely need to be re-certified again.
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I'm not so sure. The Treo uses an ARM chip, and WM2003 works well on a broad array of ARM devices. If Gartner was truly spreading incorrect rumors with a malicious intent, PalmSource could certainly protest via various channels.
--janak
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