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				 Spread Firefox! Take back the web... Let's get on board with the effort to Spread Firefox - they have hit one million downloads in 100 hours and the ticker is a blur.
 
 You can also download Firefox directly.
 
 Firefox Help is a great site for configuration tips.
 
 Admins, moderators, can we front page this?
 
 Perhaps we can make this a tips thread for PPC Thoughts users also. Here's my first - use the BBCode extension to make posting to these and most other forums a snap! See some info and screenshots here.
 
 Make the switch to Firefox and Thunderbird. You will never look back.
 
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				09-22-2004, 01:35 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Spread Firefox! Take back the web... 
 
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				 Admins, moderators, can we front page this? | Not sure about movin' it to the front page, but I sure can move it to off-topic! :wink: 
 
Send a blurb to the news team about it!
 
Steve 
				__________________"My eyes are rolling back in my head so far I can see my grey matter bubbling and frothing from reading this thread....bleh." JD
 
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				09-25-2004, 10:10 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Spread Firefox! Take back the web... 
 
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				 Not sure about movin' it to the front page, but I sure can move it to off-topic! :wink: | I think we should hold off on frontpaging it, because we'd start a Firefox-vs-IE debate -- and we've got enough IE users on the news team to make that debate a little heated. :P
 
I've been a Firefox user for a while, and am very happy with it, though.
 
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				09-26-2004, 10:41 AM
			
			
			
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				 I think we should hold off on frontpaging it, because we'd start a Firefox-vs-IE debate | Hehe...if anyone wanted to read about a Firefox vs IE debate, there are plenty out there on those techy sites. Just Google to your heart's content if you're getting fidgety.   |  
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				09-26-2004, 12:03 PM
			
			
			
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				09-27-2004, 02:45 PM
			
			
			
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			 What I like about MSIE:
 * Launches faster than any other browser on Windows (it ought to, since it is integrated into the operating environment)
 * ActiveX support (stop laughing. once you secure it, it's darn good!)
 * Spyware/brower hijacker removal keeps me busy (see above point: it's fine once you secure the browser)
 
 What I hate about MSIE:
 * a VERY broken PNG renderer (ever try to get a PNG alpha blending to render correctly on your site? It's darn difficult -- but possible (as evidenced on my web site)
 * browser hijackers (see point above about securing ActiveX)
 * no native ability to disable popups
 * even securing the browser and installing popup blockers does not achieve 100% effectiveness in blocking popup and pop under ads)
 
 What I like about Firefox:
 * open source
 * loads pages faster than MSIE
 * excellent PNG rendering
 * the best GECKO implementation
 * supports almost as many CSS elements/attributes as MSIE
 * even handles MSIE-specific HTML tags
 * displays most designed-for-MSIE pages accurately
 * tabbed viewing is the best of any tabbed browser. Unlike other tabbed browsers, it enables you to open a new page EITHER as a tab OR as a new window. Firefox has made me embrace tabbed browsing, since it does not force tabs on me when tabs are not desired.
 * excellent extension support
 
 What I do not like about Firefox:
 * does not support ActiveX without extensions (which are in early alpha stages, and very buggy)
 * Not multithreaded as well as MSIE
 * CSS support comes close to MSIE's CSS support, but falls slightly short
 * GUI (out of the box) is not as nice as MSIE
 * built-in search toolbar is not configurable for size - it is a fixed tiny size PLUS there is no "go" or "search" button for that toolbar (yes, I've gone into the available buttons, the "go" button is for the location/address bar)
 
 What, code my own extension to fix those things? You've got to be kidding!
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				09-27-2004, 07:08 PM
			
			
			
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			 The new IE in SP2 has native popup blocking and activex controlling.
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				09-27-2004, 07:54 PM
			
			
			
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			 IE had ActiveX restrictions from the beginning (to be fair to M$) - security on them were normally set to low by default though, so you had to know enough to bump up the security to take advantage of it.
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				09-27-2004, 08:50 PM
			
			
			
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			 Yeah on the new version though you have to explicitly agree every time one is installed.
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			 The "Spread Firefox" link doesn't work for me. Is this the same with anyone else?
 
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