09-22-2004, 08:00 PM
|
|
Contributing Editor Emeritus
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,228
|
|
Skype For PalmOS Is Just Hype
http://www.engadget.com/entry/4463683146179014/
"Despite that report on the ABC News website last week (and the fact that they just released it for Pocket PCs), not only do they not have a version of Skype for Palms coming out next month, apparently they aren�t even working on one."
Wonder why? Do they see the declining market share or is the PalmOS not really up to the task? That whole multitasking thing again... :wink:
|
| |
|
|
|
09-22-2004, 08:41 PM
|
|
Ponderer
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 109
|
|
Re: Skype For PalmOS Is Just Hype
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
http://www.engadget.com/entry/4463683146179014/
"Despite that report on the ABC News website last week (and the fact that they just released it for Pocket PCs), not only do they not have a version of Skype for Palms coming out next month, apparently they aren�t even working on one."
Wonder why? Do they see the declining market share or is the PalmOS not really up to the task? That whole multitasking thing again... :wink:
|
Definitely a hardware issue. Skype taxes a 400 Mhz XScale PPC pretty heavily and the program is designed to exit if you attempt to run it on a 206 Mhz processor. I shudder to think how even the ARM based Palm units would fare.
|
| |
|
|
|
09-22-2004, 09:15 PM
|
|
Thinker
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 403
|
|
Re: Skype For PalmOS Is Just Hype
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
Do they see the declining market share or is the PalmOS not really up to the task? That whole multitasking thing again... :wink:
|
Is it possible for Palm to have a declining market share with revenues up 62% from last year at this time? Just wondering.
http://www.treocentral.com/content/Stories/467-1.htm
|
| |
|
|
|
09-22-2004, 09:32 PM
|
|
Contributing Editor Emeritus
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,228
|
|
Re: Skype For PalmOS Is Just Hype
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by mbranscum
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
Do they see the declining market share or is the PalmOS not really up to the task? That whole multitasking thing again... :wink:
|
Is it possible for Palm to have a declining market share with revenues up 62% from last year at this time? Just wondering.
http://www.treocentral.com/content/Stories/467-1.htm |
I need to look at that report (thanks for the link), but to answer your question, yes. If Windows Mobile and Symbian grew at 63%, then even though Palm got bigger, the piece of the pie as a percentage of the whole got smaller, which would be a loss in market share.
|
| |
|
|
|
09-22-2004, 10:38 PM
|
|
Ponderer
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 64
|
|
Re: Skype For PalmOS Is Just Hype
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by rob_ocelot
Definitely a hardware issue. Skype taxes a 400 Mhz XScale PPC pretty heavily and the program is designed to exit if you attempt to run it on a 206 Mhz processor. I shudder to think how even the ARM based Palm units would fare.
|
The Tungsten T3 has a 400mhz XScale processor. It would seem to me that the Skype software should work fine on a T3. The OS takes up virtually no resources (unlike the WinMobile OS) so the entire capacity of the processor could go to the Skype program and utilize all resources since there isn't any real multi-tasking.
The only real problem other than the developers not porting the application to Palm is the fact that the T3 doesn't have built in Wi-Fi...
__________________
Mobile Gadgets: hp iPAQ 3715, Motorola MPx 220, Rio Carbon, hp Pavillion x5000, Panasonic DMC-FZ20, Canon Powershot S50
|
| |
|
|
|
09-23-2004, 12:13 AM
|
|
Intellectual
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 172
|
|
Skype
Interesting. I have a T3, in addition to my e800, and I think both are neat devices, although the e800 is much more powerful all the way around. IMHO, I think the problem with Palm is that they have to split focus between hardware and software, instead of just getting out of the hardware business and selling it to or Dell or or Motorola or someone. I think that, with focus, their Cobalt OS Could keep the PDA Market more competitive.
|
| |
|
|
|
09-23-2004, 02:34 AM
|
|
Intellectual
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 127
|
|
Re: Skype
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by bvkeen
Interesting. I have a T3, in addition to my e800, and I think both are neat devices, although the e800 is much more powerful all the way around. IMHO, I think the problem with Palm is that they have to split focus between hardware and software, instead of just getting out of the hardware business and selling it to or Dell or or Motorola or someone. I think that, with focus, their Cobalt OS Could keep the PDA Market more competitive.
|
HUH? :?: Palm split some time ago into separate Software (PalmSource) and Hardware (PalmOne) entities...
The real problem with porting Sype to PalmOS is not the OS or proc etc...it is the absolute dearth of available wifi options for PalmOS devices and in particular for PalmOne. P1 has only one available handheld with integrated wifi which is the aging TC. Sony has various models like the UX50, TH55 etc, but it no longer is a major player outside Japan. VoIP clients like Gphone for TC prove that these types of app can work on PalmOS, but P1 needs to release more wifi enabled handhelds first...
|
| |
|
|
|
09-23-2004, 04:14 AM
|
|
Intellectual
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 117
|
|
Re: Skype For PalmOS Is Just Hype
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
Wonder why? Do they see the declining market share or is the PalmOS not really up to the task? That whole multitasking thing again... :wink:
|
There you go again, Ed, taking potshots at the beloved PalmOS!
Who cares about Skype, VOIP, WiFi, or the Internet! Zen, Ed,...Zen! The PalmOS had Zen, has Zen, and will always have Zen. With the Zen of the PalmOS, I can very quickly (with blinding speed) pull up the phone number of whoever it is I want to call, run out to my car to get a pocketfull of change, run down the street to the nearest payphone (I can run really really fast), and dial the number of the person I want to call (I can dial really really fast). Obviously, you don't see the beauty and simplicity of this, so you will never understand Zen!
|
| |
|
|
|
09-23-2004, 04:31 AM
|
|
5000+ Posts? I Should OWN This Site!
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,616
|
|
Bah! I can turn on my T68, walk down the street to where I get a signal, turn on Bluetooth on it and the iPaq and dial faster than I could get to the nearest payphone.
:mrgreen:
__________________
iPhone 4! ☠☠☠ Mid-2010 15" MacBook Pro! ☠☠☠ Gateway LT2102h! ☠☠☠ Dell XPS M1210!
|
| |
|
|
|
09-23-2004, 04:39 AM
|
|
Editor Emeritus
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 15,171
|
|
Re: Skype For PalmOS Is Just Hype
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by ojlittle
The Tungsten T3 has a 400mhz XScale processor.
|
But so does the T|C, which also has WiFi. That makes me wonder if it was the effort in porting the application to PalmOS was too great for the company to do? Or is it because the T|C is too much of a niche product? Interesting thoughts.
Quote:
|
The only real problem other than the developers not porting the application to Palm is the fact that the T3 doesn't have built in Wi-Fi...
|
Although, you can now get the SD card.
--janak
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
Linear Mode
