09-15-2004, 01:00 PM
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Contributing Editor Emeritus
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Sony Still In The PDA Game - With An OLED Screen
http://www.engadget.com/entry/4857532541028418/
When Sony left the Clie line behind a few months ago, that was in the US market only. They said they were going to stick around in Japan and they have come out with their latest version. It is the PEG-VZ90 and the first Palm - and I think the first PDA period - to have an OLED screen.
It will have both a CF slot and a place for a Memory Stick and has built in 802.11b. It costs $870 in US dollars. 8O You can read more about Sony's production of OLED screens here.
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09-15-2004, 01:19 PM
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Theorist
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Yawn...well not completely...the OLED screen IS interesting.
Otherwise, the usual SONY bag of mixed tricks. Great style, propriety CF that won't play microdrive and who knows what else. They took away the keyboard for 'multimedia controls'.
They're kind of like buying a British import: a head turner until you have to find a garage to service it.
But OLED is interesting...does it use less power than regular?
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09-15-2004, 01:40 PM
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Ponderer
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Originally Posted by Marcel_Proust
But OLED is interesting...does it use less power than regular?
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Originally Posted by http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/O/OLED.html
OLED technology was invented by Eastman Kodak in the early 1980s. It is beginning to replace LCD technology in handheld devices such as PDAs and cellular phones because the technology is brighter, thinner, faster and lighter than LCDs, use less power, offer higher contrast and are cheaper to manufacture.
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09-15-2004, 02:12 PM
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Sage
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too bad its palm...waste of perfectly good technology :roll:
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09-15-2004, 02:24 PM
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Swami
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Originally Posted by Marcel_Proust
Yawn...well not completely...the OLED screen IS interesting.
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Very true. Bring them on! 
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Originally Posted by Marcel_Proust
They're kind of like buying a British import: a head turner until you have to find a garage to service it.
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:lol: Very good. Or America import for us - cuts both ways. :wink:
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Originally Posted by Marcel_Proust
But OLED is interesting...does it use less power than regular?
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It should, it really should........
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09-15-2004, 02:41 PM
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Theorist
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Originally Posted by CrashX
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Originally Posted by Marcel_Proust
But OLED is interesting...does it use less power than regular?
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Originally Posted by http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/O/OLED.html
OLED technology was invented by Eastman Kodak in the early 1980s. It is beginning to replace LCD technology in handheld devices such as PDAs and cellular phones because the technology is brighter, thinner, faster and lighter than LCDs, use less power, offer higher contrast and are cheaper to manufacture.
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That reminded me that Kodak was the first to make a digi cam with an OLED screen. I wish I could see the clie in person to see how good the screen is.
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09-15-2004, 02:45 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Pros and Cons of OLED
For all of us outside of Japan, the most interesting thing about the VZ90 is definitely the OLED screen. Sony supplies screens to other handheld makers, so it's entirely possible that a Pocket PC with a Sony-made OLED display could debut in the relatively near future. This almost certainly isn't going to happen this year, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see one by next summer.
OLED (organic light-emitting diode) displays are self-luminous, and therefore do not require a backlight. They offer a high contrast ratio, a quick response time, and wide viewing angle -- all in a package thinner and lighter than current LCD modules.
The main disadvantage of OLED for us users is the product lifespan. OLED displays don't last nearly as long as LCDs do.
So far, companies have had difficulties producing large OLED screens. That's what has kept them out of handhelds so far. Sony's 3.8-inch display is the largest OLED ever to go into mass production.
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09-15-2004, 02:54 PM
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Neophyte
Join Date: Apr 2003
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This Clie wasn't created for features -- it's to demo the OLED screen (bragging rights for Sony). Since it has a good screen, it will be mostly used to fiew still images or watch videos. Plug in your CF from your digital cam, and you have an instant high-quality viewer. If you have the new Sony Cybershot M1 cam that can capture Mpeg4 videos directly, plug-in the memory stick in the VZ90 and you have an instant video viewer.
While you can do that in most PPC's and other Palm OS PDA's, one thing is just different about the VZ90 -- the screen. Again, it was made for the screen.
Read more about Sony's OLED: http://www.1src.com/?m=show&id=469
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09-15-2004, 02:54 PM
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Pontificator
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Originally Posted by Marcel_Proust
Yawn...well not completely...the OLED screen IS interesting.
Otherwise, the usual SONY bag of mixed tricks. Great style, propriety CF that won't play microdrive and who knows what else. They took away the keyboard for 'multimedia controls'.
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According to the Article on Engadget the CF slot will support a variety of CF cards, and they mention microdrives, have you heard something else?
This would be exciting, IF it were to be available in other parts of the world AND it was running Palm OS6. I'm beginning to think Cobolt, or Ruby, or Diamond or whatever they are calling the new OS is nothing but Vaporware. It's been 9 months since it was "delivered" to OEM's and I still haven't heard a single device being announced that runs its software.
Hopefully they will be offering the OLED screen to other manufacturers for inclusion on other handhelds. I think they currently provide screens for some of iPAQ line.
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09-15-2004, 02:56 PM
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Theorist
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: Pros and Cons of OLED
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Originally Posted by Ed@Brighthand
The main disadvantage of OLED for us users is the product lifespan. OLED displays don't last nearly as long as LCDs do.
So far, companies have had difficulties producing large OLED screens. That's what has kept them out of handhelds so far. Sony's 3.8-inch display is the largest OLED ever to go into mass production.
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Sony has begun mass producing 3.8 inch HVGA screens so the next PDA to feature this screen is most likely another PalmOS (T5 anybody?) device. and 
Also OLED has a lifespan of approx 10,000 hours. I reckon the average user uses their PDA less than an hour a day. That would mean 27 years of usage. Us power users are more likely to use 3-5 hours a day = 5-9 years of usage. It is VERY likely in our age of disposable gadgets that the screen will outlive the PDA itself especially since 'power users' tend to 'upgrade' every year.
Anybody else who use their PDA (unless his job requires it) more than 5 hours a day needs to get a life.
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