06-15-2004, 11:00 PM
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Swami
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 4,303
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Pocket PCs & Embedded Cameras
In the past while you may have noticed that I've made a few posts about cameras being embedded in Smartphones and Pocket PCs. There's been some really good discussions in these threads, but I am really interested in the actual numbers of folks who have opinions about the matter. In some polls we get over 2000 votes, in a thread with 30 different people commenting in it. So, I would like to know the options of the silent majority. :lurking:
The poll questions are as they are � OK? I know that some opinions will be missed, but six options is a lots as it is. Remember that we are looking for what your current thoughts are, so for example I will be voting for "No. I would like one, but I go to some places that won't allow them". This of course means that the next Pocket PC I buy *won't* have a camera embedded, as I would not be able to take it everywhere with me.
So, get voting and I'll get working on my 'Thought' post / mini poll, which I will soon post. That'll then be the last embedded camera post from me for a while. Honest! :wink:
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06-16-2004, 05:54 AM
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Mystic
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,911
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It'll be cool to have a camera but I wouldn't pay much extra for it. Maybe $40 max.
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06-16-2004, 05:56 AM
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Philosopher
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 544
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Re: Pocket PCs & Embedded Cameras
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Originally Posted by Jonathon Watkins
Remember that we are looking for what your current thoughts are, so for example I will be voting for "No. I would like one, but I go to some places that won't allow them". This of course means that the next Pocket PC I buy *won't* have a camera embedded, as I would not be able to take it everywhere with me.
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Couldn't agree more (and as a result voted the same way). While I would love to have every bell and whistle in my next PPC, I would rather do without something that would limit where I could use it (excepting BT of course).
I currently have a Sony-Ericsson T610 and have not used the built-in camera since the day I got it. I would gladly poke it's eye out, if needed, to get through security. Although I regularly accompany our sales people on visits to Fortune 100/500 companies for presentations, I have yet to be stopped with my silly phone camera, probably because I am not venturing into any really secure areas (mostly conference rooms).
I do carry a nice Casio Exilim that takes good pictures (2.0MP) and includes a flash. I will always advise our client that; a.) I have a camera in my bag, and b.) Will only take it out if permitted to do so. I respect their privacy and would never do anything to compromise that respect.
I don't want to prevent someone who really wants a device with a camera from having one so please manufacturers, either make all of your phones/PPC's with two versions, with and without cameras (which would be very costly), or create consumer & business product lines, (leaving the cameras OUT of the business version) which will disappoint some, but "Oh well".
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06-16-2004, 10:06 AM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 90
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I simply cannot understand the fascination for having a 0.02$ plastic lens and a lousy CMOS chip embedded in a perfectly good device!
If I want a camera, I'll go buy one! :evil:
I use my PPC a lot of places where I probably would have it confiscated for having a camera.
IIRC I can actually get fined for using a device with a camera in a lot of public places.
Now what I would like were for a camera that had BT in it...
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06-16-2004, 12:53 PM
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Mystic
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,734
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The numbers are a bit difficult to analyse, but if you exclude the people who actually hate cameras (34%), then 31 of 371 people (8%) are not able to use cameras because of their work.
Surur
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06-16-2004, 12:59 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 59
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I have a wonderful, small dimensioned digital camera that I keep in my car's glove compartment for either planned or spontaneous pictures; I don't like compromises and prefer to use my PDA as a PDA.
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06-16-2004, 01:12 PM
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Philosopher
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 559
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I find these numbers a little disturbing, actually. I have a camera on my i-mate and it's one of my favorite features. I use it all the time. The resolution isn't great, but it's perfect for spontaneous pictures.
I also LOVE the ability to snap a picture and email it instantly through GPRS. Real time picture email. It doesn't get much cooler than that.
I'm sure I'd feel differently if I worked somewhere where cameras weren't allowed, but for now, I love my i-mate...and it's camera! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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06-16-2004, 01:19 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 80
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Someday, PDAs will evolve into "Tricorders".
They'll have a high resolution camera capable of video and stills, in both visible and infrared bands; they'll have high quality, wide frequency range sound capture, they'll do motion and sound level detection, so you can just leave one on a shelf to monitor a room, having it send a message when it detects something, and of course, software defined radio that does bluetooth, WiFi, ultra-wideband, and all the cellular networks, and while they're at it, tune radio and TV, with the ability to record. They'll have fuel cells with at least 24 hours of running time, and terabytes of storage capacity.
All these things are inevitable- the technology already exists- it just has to be perfected and commercialized. (Except for the storage capacity, but we know that doubles every year, so if that continues, a terabyte is about 8-10 years away.)
So, eventually I'll want a PDA with a camera, but they're just not good enough yet!
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06-16-2004, 01:30 PM
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Swami
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 4,303
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Surur
The numbers are a bit difficult to analyse, but if you exclude the people who actually hate cameras (34%), then 31 of 371 people (8%) are not able to use cameras because of their work.
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Not THAT is selective reading! :wink: Currently, over half of folks do NOT want a camera in their PDA and that's being generous and not counting the "No. I'm waiting for the quality/resolution to improve to an acceptable level" votes.
I have to say, even though I personally don't like cameras on PDAs I'm pleasantly surprised by the strength of feeling against embedded cameras.
Lets see how the voting develops as the rest of the US wakes up, but at the moment - there is a strong reason for OEMs not to include cameras on most of their new PDAs.
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06-16-2004, 01:31 PM
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Neophyte
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2
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If you need a camera, get a dedicated one.
The only thing that I would like to have regarding camera's and PPC's is connectivity. OK, some brands (e.g. Canon) have media compatible with your PDA, so you can get your photo's on a PDA when desired. But that's not universal and not good enough. I want a BT connection to my photo camera: file and photo mgmt on the PDA, file transfers. And what about remote control ? Ever tried to control a powerpoint presentation using a cell phone with BT. Works great, so why not for camera's.
BT will allow you to connect to other devices with BT as well amongst cell phones.
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