02-20-2004, 09:00 PM
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New Jersey Mom Sues RIAA under RICO Statutes
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey/index.ssf?/base/news-5/107708869350700.xml
We've discussed the gestapo tactics of the RIAA in the past. It seems one mom in New Jersey is turning the tables on the RIAA.
"The music industry considers Michele Scimeca a pirate. The Morris County mom has her own term for record executives: Racketeers. In what legal experts described as a novel strategy, Scimeca is citing federal racketeering laws like the one that jailed mob boss John Gotti to countersue record labels that accused her in December of sharing some 1,400 copyrighted songs over the Internet."
Go get 'em. :evil:
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02-20-2004, 09:08 PM
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Oooh, I like this... The RIAA is going to look like total jerks trying to sue a mom.... :lol:
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02-20-2004, 09:20 PM
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Magi
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Originally Posted by ricksfiona
Oooh, I like this... The RIAA is going to look like total jerks trying to sue a mom.... :lol:
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Well, they didn't seem to care too much when they sued a grandfather or a 12 year old girl...
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02-20-2004, 09:20 PM
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Regardless of what boneheaded tactics the RIAA uses...downloading music via P2P networks is illegal. And those who engage in this practice deserve prosecution. Downloading "free" music is no different than shoplifting at Sam Goody.
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02-20-2004, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Foo Fighter
Downloading "free" music is no different than shopplifting at Sam Goody.
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I won't argue that it isn't wrong or a crime or illegal, but saying it's no different than shoplifting is a little bit of a stretch. It's more like someone bought the CD, made tons of copies of it and left them lying on the street. Sure, the copies are illegal but the criminals are the ones who copied and mass-distributed them. :|
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02-20-2004, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Foo Fighter
Regardless of what boneheaded tactics the RIAA uses...downloading music via P2P networks is illegal. And those who engage in this practice deserve prosecution. Downloading "free" music is no different than shopplifting at Sam Goody.
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Right, but you don't sued to the tune of $150,000 per song if you shoplift a CD from Sam Goody 
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02-20-2004, 09:33 PM
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Here, here!
I'm not even going to begin debating the sides in P2P music sharing, because there are slew of these already available on the 'net. As for the woman's actions, I applaud her. The stance of the RIAA has been far too despotic from my viewpoint.
I'll be interested to see how this one turns out.
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02-20-2004, 09:37 PM
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I'm waiting on someone to go after the RIAA for ani-trust violations.......
Hmmmm?
If this RICO case gets anywhere, I think anti-trust would be an even stronger argument.
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02-20-2004, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jacob
Right, but you don't sued to the tune of $150,000 per song if you shoplift a CD from Sam Goody |
Especially considering shoplifting fines for low dollar items usually are in the range of $250'ish.
Let's see: - Approx 10 songs (varies, of course) = 1 CD
1 CD = Approx $15.00-$20.00 (falling under the $50-mark noted in the article I linked, thereby basing this on the $250 fine)
- 10 songs = $250 fine
1 song = $25 fine
or with the RIAA - 1 song = $150,000 fine
1 CD (10 songs) = $1,500,000 fine
I don't think Sam Goody would get away with that, why does the RIAA?
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02-20-2004, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Foo Fighter
Regardless of what boneheaded tactics the RIAA uses...downloading music via P2P networks is illegal. And those who engage in this practice deserve prosecution. Downloading "free" music is no different than shoplifting at Sam Goody.
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100% in agreement, but prosecution is to be done within your civil rights, and the tactics the RIAA used can be seen to violate those rights.
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