02-12-2004, 03:00 PM
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WakeUp Tweak To Mitigate 2003 Alarm Bug
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=876
"Wakeup Tweak is a little program that corrects a bug that appeared in Windows Mobile 2003 concerning alarms that don't always ring when they should. Everyone knows now that the PocketPC turns itself on at midnight to execute some maintenance routines, in particular the alarm initialisation. There is a fault in that the delay to switch on the Pocket PC is only 15 seconds, and that that time lapse is too short to do it correctly. Consequently, some users had have the unpleasant surprise of not hearing their Pocket PC ring out when it should have. This bug can be corrected by a change to the Registry, but if you are not too inspired to do this, you can install this utility instead."
I say it mitigates the issue because the above registry tweak doesn't fix the problem 100% of the time. I've seen posts in the newsgroups that by changing the 15 seconds to 60 seconds, it greatly increases the chances you'll get the alarm, but doesn't guarantee it. Still very odd that I have no problems at all on my 2215, the device most people with the alarm issue seem to have. :?
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02-12-2004, 03:18 PM
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Re: WakeUp Tweak To Mitigate 2003 Alarm Bug
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Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
Still very odd that I have no problems at all on my 2215, the device most people with the alarm issue seem to have. :?
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Perhaps your list of possible events (tasks, to-do's etc.) is much smaller. I only had this problem when i had not archived my calander and to-do items for a long time. When i cleaned them out, the problem also was gone......
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02-12-2004, 03:37 PM
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WHY CAN'T MICROSOFT FIX IT??? WHAT ARE THEY DOING OVER THERE IN THE MOBILE DEVICES DEPARTMENT??? BUILDING THOSE LITTLE MEDIA WHATSITS??? :shocked!: THEY NEED TO GET ON THIS NOW!!! ITS ALREADY BEEN DONE FIFTY MILLION TIMES SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXCUSE THEY COULD HAVE!!!
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02-12-2004, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dmacburry2003
WHY CAN'T MICROSOFT FIX IT??? WHAT ARE THEY DOING OVER THERE IN THE MOBILE DEVICES DEPARTMENT??? BUILDING THOSE LITTLE MEDIA WHATSITS??? :shocked!: THEY NEED TO GET ON THIS NOW!!! ITS ALREADY BEEN DONE FIFTY MILLION TIMES SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXCUSE THEY COULD HAVE!!!
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Sir, move away from that coffee pot!
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02-12-2004, 03:48 PM
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So what are the registry settings that affect those parameters (both the duration to wake up, and setting it to come completely on every time)? Does anyone have a pointer to the technical details on the registry settings?
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02-12-2004, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by david291
So what are the registry settings that affect those parameters (both the duration to wake up, and setting it to come completely on every time)? Does anyone have a pointer to the technical details on the registry settings?
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Originally Posted by Tekguru Thread
There is a set of system states - for example, Suspend, On, and more. Suspend is, as one would expect, the state that the unit is in when its "off". On is, of course, the unit running at full power. There are others as well. The definitions for power settings for each state are stored in the registry at HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State.
Interestingly, there is an intermediate state called "Resuming", which is the state between Suspend and On. In other words, between the point where the unit is off and on, it is "resuming from suspend". Here is the comment from platform.cpp regarding this state:
// devices should be very low-power in this state, while we figure out whether
// or not to fully resume.
While the unit is in the resume state, the unit will remain powered on for precisely 15 seconds (the default). This is controlled by the registry key HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\\Power\Timeouts\ACResumingSuspendTimeout while on AC power and HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\Timeouts\BattResumingSuspendTimeout while on battery power. System activity does not affect this timeout (i.e. if you were to tap on the screen it would have no effect and the unit would still power down).
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From the monster thread on Tekguru!
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02-12-2004, 04:08 PM
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This has to get fixed in PPC2004 (I'm not giving up my Pocket PC name dang it!  ) This, IMHO, is a major embarrassment to the platform when it can't do the basic functions of a PDA. I have to believe MS has been working their butts off to fix this. If this problem is still around in PPC2004....... 8O
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02-12-2004, 04:19 PM
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Re: WakeUp Tweak To Mitigate 2003 Alarm Bug
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Originally Posted by JvanEkris
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Still very odd that I have no problems at all on my 2215, the device most people with the alarm issue seem to have. :?
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Perhaps your list of possible events (tasks, to-do's etc.) is much smaller. I only had this problem when i had not archived my calander and to-do items for a long time. When i cleaned them out, the problem also was gone...... |
I keep 12 weeks of historical appointments on my device, which is probably 30-50 items and I have about 90 tasks on there right now. I don't know if that is a lot or a little compared to your list.
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02-12-2004, 04:40 PM
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Hi:
I had that problem, really is solved with tweaks2k2, a program (app) that does many usefull tricks.
According to that bug, 60 seconds sometime is not enought, something that has been reported by some users of Tweaks2k2 in our forum in www.todopocketpc.com. For those users values higher than 120 seconds worked.
You can find here the program www.pc-counselor.com/downloads.htm
Cheers,
aris
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02-12-2004, 06:00 PM
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I've been testing this tweak as part of my review of PTravelAlarm. I, too, have a 2215 with over a years worth of appts, tasks, etc. (for client reference/billing reasons). 60 seconds did not produce reliable results for me, either.
I'll have to try something a bit longer and see if I can get the alarms to work reliably.
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