02-28-2003, 10:00 PM
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Introducing Desktop E-Mail Redirectors
"A desktop e-mail redirector lets you connect to your Outlook or Exchange e-mail at work. You can install the desktop e-mail redirector on both your desktop PC and mobile device yourself and start receiving and sending e-mail from your device right away. Most desktop e-mail redirectors also give you access to your calendar and contacts. Your e-mail and personal information management (PIM) data is encrypted during transmission to help protect your information. Desktop e-mail redirectors allow you "browse" your Outlook or Exchange server. Once you sync your e-mail via a wireless connection it will automatically store a copy of your e-mail and PIM data on your mobile device so you can still use or process the data even if you are out of wireless coverage. A copy of the data will sync with your Outlook or Exchange, automatically at timed intervals or on command."
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02-28-2003, 10:17 PM
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Pontificator
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Getting closer. Now if it would just push it to you instead of needing to be pulled (This would seem especially "doable" for the PPC PE).
I wonder what sort of bandwidth useage were looking at for the query alone. Hitting the megmeter every 15 minutes with this could get expensive if it's not a small footprint.
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02-28-2003, 10:24 PM
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Editor Emeritus
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Originally Posted by bdegroodt
I wonder what sort of bandwidth useage were looking at for the query alone. Hitting the megmeter every 15 minutes with this could get expensive if it's not a small footprint.
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... unless they develop some very efficient protocol. Hypothetically, a ~ 500 byte query could be enough (authentication issues aside). Assuming 1K blocks, every 15 minutes for 12 hours would amount to 48K per day or 1.4M per month. It's a start. A further optimization would be, instead of polling, to use an SMS to notify the phone to wake up and automatically retrieve the email.
--janak
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02-28-2003, 10:33 PM
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Intellectual
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Yeah but could they not use the Flux Capasitor to push the Hyperdrive from the Q-Continum?'
From there they could use the ACME shuttle protocol to get the Road Runner rocket to tell us the email is there.
What are your thoughts? 
Thanos
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02-28-2003, 10:44 PM
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Oracle
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Sort of good. It's closely related to the MS Outlook Mobile program that used to complement the MS MIS, but was removed.
One of the reasons why this is not good is security. IT in some companies is still not managing pocket devices, and information can slip thru the cracks.
Do you have an idea of how many notebooks and handhelds are stolen or lost every day, in airports, cafe lounges, hotel lobbies?
A notebook can be protected, with encryption mechanisms, PGP disks, passwords on boot or restore from sleep. A PPC OTOH, unless using some sort of builtin security (a la H5450) is pretty much open, and some company policies would not accept this to be connected to their networks. In some case this could be the case for interruption of employment.
Also, a program running in a desktop, bypassing a firewall because the traffic is a "known" kind of traffic open even more machines to interference from third-party people. Instead of worrying about a MS Exchange Server, now the admin has to worry about all the 45,000 desktops out there working as servers, listening! Of course, the Admin can block MS Outlook mobile traffic, and then, back to square one...
It's all good (and I love technology, that's why I work in the communications industry) but some people are DUH! not prepared for this yet, and there's no infrastructure to control it.
I still think the MIS (http://www.microsoft.com/mis) is the best way to go.
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02-28-2003, 10:48 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Ugh! I want my PPC to connect directly to get my eMail. An email redirector is what AT&T touts as their solution for mobile users who want access to their email on the go. Your desktop has to be running and connected to the web. HEY....what if my desktop travels with me? Like its laptop????? Or...what if I am out of town and my desktop decides to gorp? What do I do then? No....Mobile devices need to have full access just like thier bigger counterparts.
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02-28-2003, 10:58 PM
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Oracle
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Originally Posted by igreen
Ugh! I want my PPC to connect directly to get my eMail. An email redirector is what AT&T touts as their solution for mobile users who want access to their email on the go. Your desktop has to be running and connected to the web. HEY....what if my desktop travels with me? Like its laptop????? Or...what if I am out of town and my desktop decides to gorp? What do I do then? No....Mobile devices need to have full access just like thier bigger counterparts.
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And that's why MS Mobile Information Server is better. It's a full server, with SMS, HTML and WAP notifications, plus ActiveSync services to sync over the internet. Problem is it needs an Exchange Server.
But it's much better in capabilities.
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02-28-2003, 11:07 PM
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Editor Emeritus
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Originally Posted by thanos255
Yeah but could they not use the Flux Capasitor to push the Hyperdrive from the Q-Continum?'
From there they could use the ACME shuttle protocol to get the Road Runner rocket to tell us the email is there.
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I was being quite serious, you know... :? Always-on email is a "holy grail", but even with RIM it's very expensive. The only current exception to the cost rule is the T-Mobile Sidekick. Lowering the cost for a broader array of solutions via clever methodologies may be worthwhile.
--janak
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02-28-2003, 11:10 PM
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Pontificator
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Originally Posted by igreen
Ugh! I want my PPC to connect directly to get my eMail. An email redirector is what AT&T touts as their solution for mobile users who want access to their email on the go. Your desktop has to be running and connected to the web. HEY....what if my desktop travels with me? Like its laptop????? Or...what if I am out of town and my desktop decides to gorp? What do I do then? No....Mobile devices need to have full access just like thier bigger counterparts.
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To be honest, that's one of my hang ups on this as well. Redirectors aren't practical for those of us that are connected to the network primarily via a laptop. When I don't have my laptop with me, I have it closed and I manually request POP email via GPRS.
I'd love even more than this, a little application that did the "midnight wake" on the Ipaq at a user determined interval and initiated the POP request and then alarmed on new mail. Seems so simple-Apple Script can do it :P
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02-28-2003, 11:12 PM
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Oracle
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Have a read on http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=439... Just posted it :-)
The article is about the launch of the new Palm Tungsten W, and how the infrastructure for some wireless services is not completely in place. The article cites (in the original CNET) that both Handspring and Palm offer "redirectors". Actually Handspring offers a redirector from Visto, which is the same as the MS offering.
I've used Visto before with my previous Palm and it's quite intrusive, including opening TCP ports. The documentation does not clear state which ports or what services your computer will make available...
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