12-29-2002, 12:07 PM
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HP Sued Over WordLogic Keyboard
http://makeashorterlink.com/?L270427E2
As you can see in a press release, in November 2001 WordLogic and Compaq were happy to announce the shipment of the WordLogic Predictive Keyboard with the Compaq iPAQ 3800 series. In July 2002 WordLogic announced an agreement with HP that newer iPAQ 3900 and 5000 would come with a trial verion of the predictive keyboard. But there the happiness ends, since WordLogic is now suing HP on the explanation of their agreement. Did the new agreement and the purchase of Compaq by HP mean HP should stop shipping the full version with the 3800 series? WordLogic seems to think so. According to WordLogic a lot of money is at stake in this suit:
"Hewlett-Packard was supposed to stop putting the full version of the software in the 3800 series, the suit contends. Yet it continued providing the full version in "several hundred thousand'' 3800 series iPAQs without paying WordLogic, the suit claims. WordLogic said it has lost "tens of millions of dollars'' because of Hewlett-Packard's actions. [...] Under the new agreement, WordLogic gets $18.95 and Hewlett- Packard gets $1 for each full version of the software downloaded by consumers for the 3900 and 5000 series devices. WordLogic's suit seeks $18.95 for every infringing 3800 series device sold, plus Hewlett-Packard's profits."
Without knowledge of the content of the agreements it's hard to say who's right. Still I couldn't help smiling when I read the claim of losing tens of millions of dollars, as that probably only would have been the case if every 3800 series owner would have bought WordLogic. Therefore it sounds a bit strange to me that HP would have to buy the licenses of the product as shipped with previously sold 3800 devices at the full retail price, where many of the owners might not even use the product. Personally I did not see WordLogic as the major selling point of the 3800 series, although the software is cool. But I do not know a single person who has chosen WordLogic as his or her primary text entry method. I also don't know a single person who has bought WordLogic after using it for the trial period on the newer devices. Do you?
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12-29-2002, 01:46 PM
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Actually, I did buy it. I own both an English and a Dutch version. I use them all the time. For me, there's none better. 
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12-29-2002, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaap van Ees
Actually, I did buy it. I own both an English and a Dutch version. I use them all the time. For me, there's none better. |
Ha! That's what I hoped for, people stating they *did* care! Did you get it for the Dutch version first (since the Pocket PC doesn't come with an easy Dutch text entry), learned to love it, and then went for the English version? Or was it the other way round, or did you get them at the same time? I still need to advise people on the easiest Dutch text entry, and you're the first WordLogic user I meet, so I hope you don't mind my questions.
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12-29-2002, 02:00 PM
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Sure I care! Mark Dostie and Peter Knaven (and the other ppl at WordLogic who I don't know by name) are doing a great job. They deserve the support of their user community.
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12-29-2002, 02:05 PM
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Yo Marlof, no problem with the questions. I got hooked to the English version first. Then I started bugging Mark Dostie for a Dutch version, offering my help in creating it. I didn't have to, because he had Peter Knaven already working on it. When it was done, I got the Dutch version. With some help by Mark I have installed the Dutch version as my primary keyboard, and the English version as my second. Both work great together.
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12-29-2002, 02:06 PM
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Well, I just bought the Dutch Full version to go on my Pocket PC, so we'll see how it holds out.
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12-29-2002, 02:10 PM
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Hope you enjoy it as much as I do. I love using it with TextMaker, creating lots of docs during my daily commute. 8)
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12-29-2002, 02:14 PM
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That I will not do as I commute by car  . But at my work, they've recently ordered some iPAQs, and they wondered about the easiest Dutch text entry method on the English OS. I must say, I did like the idea of editing your own input methods. If I like the Dutch version, I'll ping you on using Dutch and English side by side, so I get to stick to one input method. OK, wordcompletion list editing, here I come.
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12-29-2002, 02:19 PM
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Hahahahaha! Actually, list editing is pretty easy. New words can be added on the fly and automatically, without user intervention. Only thing I do every now and then is correct a few typo's. One thing though, be sure to make regular backups of your personal.dic. I lost a particular big one after a hard reset. :wink:
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12-29-2002, 04:07 PM
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I liked word logic for my 3800, but when I asked a question via there email tech support and a got a generic answer I uninstalled it and said screw it. I then went as far again as installing it and emailed them again about the same question and got another bogus answer. Basically the english dic and input pad are missing quite a few symbols that are needed and also trying to setup a mass persoanl dictionary for networking terms is not doable due to the missing symbols. I would buy word logic if they offered an upgrade or pay for the addon so I am able to create the symbols and words I need to make this product a hit. I lost trust and respect for this company when they do not try to offer support for something that would be simple on there end to provide and/or fix.
On a personal note, I think then suing HP for this is a joke. There will be no millions of dollars in lose cause this product is not for the masses. It is a good product for a select few and if those select few like it enough let wordlogic ask them for money. Suing a company just to get money for a product that does not do what it says it can do to me is a joke. HP has supported both 3800 series I have owned without a no pushback or silly generic or wrong questions. That is why they will get my money again and again. Good support and proper handling of my question, feedback, and concerns.
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