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Old 11-04-2002, 03:35 PM
Andy Sjostrom
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Default Definition of "What a Shame"

http://www.infosync.no/news/2002/n/2539.html

If you wonder how to define "What a shame", I present to you the real deal. "What a shame" is by definition building drop-dead gorgeous phones on top of a drop-dead dead platform. The company that starts with "N" and ends with "okia" announced today new phones that breath pride, ambition and innovation. Too bad they cripple their phones with a platform that is head�ng nowhere. infoSync has all the details and images, except for the N-Gage seen below. In my opinion, N-Gage is not their nicest looking phone so I recommend a visit to infoSync.

 
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Old 11-04-2002, 03:53 PM
PJE
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Default I like the 6800 - if they could drop the number of buttons.

Hi,

I like the look of the 6800 (the one with the split keyboard). I think they should have dropped from 4(1/2) to 3(1/2) rows of keys and embedded the number keys in the right (or left) keypad to make the buttons larger.

Now, what I'd like would be a landscape PocketPC with this type of keyboard...

With regard to Symbian, only time will tell - but they do have volumes on their side once the Series 60 platform rolls out fully. I've not written any applications directly on the EPOC OS, but other than syncronization with Windows apps (a big thing) which is being adressed, I don't see any techinical problems.

PJE
 
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Old 11-04-2002, 04:32 PM
Jonathon Watkins
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Indeed - why can't the PPC manufactures show a little imagination and get with some new form factors. Why is HP the only one still (just) making PPCs with keyboards?

Now the 6800 is a NICE piece of design! Very clever, but I wonder how solid & durable the keyboard hinge will be�.. As Andy said - it�s a shame Nokia isn�t in bed with MS � the offspring would be very interesting indeed! :wink:
 
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Old 11-04-2002, 05:25 PM
krisbrown
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A few years ago I would have agreed but things are starting to change in Europe, there is so much useful software being written for the platform that I think it does have a future, the games are cheap and are starting to pop up in those ringtone sites, which is a seal of approval by any standards.

Also check out this baby, ooooh the possibilities!!!
http://www.nokia.com/phones/observat...era/index.html
 
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Old 11-04-2002, 06:13 PM
Timothy Rapson
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Snotty comments about the future of Symbian will not make them less successful nor make the long delayed MS Smartphone inniative successful.

Time will tell, but my bets are on Symbian. At least I did not have to reset my Mako every day to keep it working. If I were Sendo, Tmobile, or any of the phone makers who are using smartphone (Samsung will be the key indicator as stressed by other threads, since they are offering models with all three OSs) I would NOT put anything on the box that lets the user know that Windows is involved. I wouldn't take a first generation MS OS product if you paid me.

But, go ahead and slam the Symbian models that are running away with sales in Europe. We'll know a year from now which ones win out.
 
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Old 11-04-2002, 06:14 PM
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Default Nokia and Symbian

First off that Phone Pictured, Can anyone say Gameboy Advanced?
Come on Really!!!

As far as Symbian goes, I do beleive it is picking up steam whether MS o'phyles like it or not.
 
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Old 11-04-2002, 07:52 PM
Zensbikeshop
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Default Greatly Exagerated

I think the rumours of Symbian's demise are greatly exagerated.

On what grounds do you class it a dead platform?

The fact that EVERY major mobile manufacturer is a member of Synbian says something as does the fact that Bill G. has stated that Symbian is a top three threat to Microsoft.

Symbina does not produce hardware, Symbian (cleverly I believe) does not produce the UI - Symbian produces the OS.

An OS that powers the biggest selling PDA in EMEA.

Now I know this always comes as a shock to Americans but EMEA is a bigger market that the US - especially for mobile technology. Can you even say GSM hahahaha

The next 2-3 years are going to be a very interesting time in the mobile software/hardware/OS market place. Do not discount Symbian..
 
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Old 11-04-2002, 08:01 PM
ECOslin
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Default New same things

I'd like to see more non-standard profiles for Pocket PC class machines.
Once or twice my Maestro has suffered the insults of being called a Palm Pilot. This coming year dozens of new, same same, clone Pocket PCs will be rolling in.

Same profiles in successionally cheaper devices.

Edward
 
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Old 11-04-2002, 08:48 PM
KyleC
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Default Re: New same things

Quote:
Originally Posted by ECOslin
Once or twice my Maestro has suffered the insults of being called a Palm Pilot.
Hear Hear! The only way to describe my e310 to other uncultured people is to compare it to a Palm Pilot. While this may compromise my dignity, it will help the rest of the world to understand what Pocket PC's are.
 
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Old 11-04-2002, 09:29 PM
Gremmie
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Default Re: Nokia and Symbian

Quote:
Originally Posted by JMountford
First off that Phone Pictured, Can anyone say Gameboy Advanced?
Come on Really!!!
They've had this form since the 5510--which was still after the Game Boy Advanced

On the topic of the OS, for phone OS's (in Europe), Symbian will be a leader, The Register and other European based reviewer (minus Infosync) have been critical of Pocket PC and even Palm based smartphones.
 
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