
10-08-2002, 04:21 PM
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Executive Editor
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 29,160
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The mobile version of this site
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/pocket
So you're looking for something that's fast loading, ad free (for now), and more like the previous version of this site? Check out the mobile version of the site with your desktop browser. When you visit this site on a Pocket PC, it will automatically re-direct to that version (it also sniffs for AvantGo and Mazingo). If you're using Netscape 4.x or another browser that doesn't quite render the site properly, give that "lite" version a try while we work out the kinks in our design. Thanks for your patience!
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10-08-2002, 05:36 PM
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Philosopher
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 578
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Looks good for mobile! Works fine on my Jornada.
Except, of course, the forums. They still don't work on a Pocket PC screen and there's no "print topic" option to make it readable (if not "replyable"). But I know that's not supposed to be ready yet.
The main page is good. I won't mind the ads when they come, either, if they help support it.
What are the major design considerations for the mobile forum pages? I assume you'll get rid of the frames, the name/avitar column on the left, perhaps the avitar (or make it optional?), etc.
I think you're doing great.
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10-08-2002, 06:16 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 88
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The front page of the mobile version looks great. Loads fast. Looking forward to the mobile version of the forums.
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10-08-2002, 10:27 PM
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Neophyte
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 6
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The mobile Version of PocketPCThoughts is much better than the old one!
I always hated it to scroll horizontally because of the Ad on top... :cry:
But now everything is fine!
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10-09-2002, 01:54 AM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 80
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THANK YOU! The Mobile site lets me increase the font size!
The only problem I have with your new site is that the font size is fixed (doesn't obey the Text Size setting in Internet Explorer), and is TOO SMALL. I run 17" monitors (LCD's) at 1280x1024, so the pixels are pretty tiny, and the font is only 9 pixels high.
It's really annoying how more and more sites are using fixed size fonts rather than allowing the stuff to be rendered locally. The idea of HTML was to let the site specify content and let the local system do the formatting. Sites that do that work great on Pocket PCs. Those that don't are unusable.
I use "Large fonts" mode, so normally if a font is specified in points, Windows will scale it to about 25% larger than normal on my system. But when a font size is hard-coded in IE, it is a fixed number of pixels high, and that makes it too small.
If you insist on not using variable sized fonts, can you at least bump up the size by a pixel or three? Those of us who are over 40 will really appreciate it.
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10-09-2002, 01:58 AM
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Neophyte
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 7
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I asked this question in an earlier post, but it quickly filled up with kudos to the site.
Can someone point me in the direction of some info on how to create a sniffer that will point a user to a Mobile browser? I understand how to send one user to a flavour of IE, and another flavour of Netscape designed site, I'm just looking for the codebase that you have to sniff for to send someone to a pocket PC site.
Thanks!
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10-09-2002, 02:22 AM
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Pupil
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 11
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I use this as the site I visit even on my Desktop. This is what the desktop re-design version should had been. Clean, clear, and fast-loading. Not too much "junk" in the navigation like on the current re-design.
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10-09-2002, 03:07 AM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 156
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Quote:
Can someone point me in the direction of some info on how to create a sniffer that will point a user to a Mobile browser? I understand how to send one user to a flavour of IE, and another flavour of Netscape designed site, I'm just looking for the codebase that you have to sniff for to send someone to a pocket PC site.
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Here's some PHP that I use on my site:
Code:
<?php
$browser = strtolower($HTTP_USER_AGENT);
$avantgo = 'avantgo';
$pocketpc = 'windows ce';
$foliage = 'wince';
$mazingo = 'mazingo';
$match_browser_a = strpos($browser, $avantgo);
$match_browser_p = strpos($browser, $pocketpc); $match_browser_f = strpos($browser, $foliage); $match_browser_m = strpos($browser, $mazingo);
if($match_browser_a !== false | $match_browser_p !== false | $match_browser_f !== false | $match_browser_m !== false) $mobile = 1;
?>
Basically, what it does is sniff out the browser information (so it can still be fooled with registry hacks). I've made it so that if an AvantGo/Mazingo client, or a browser that identifies itself as "Windows CE" or "WinCE", is detected, then the $mobile variable is set to 1. That way, you can have conditional code further on down your page to display different items/layouts depending on whether you want to optimise for a mobile display or not.
I can't take credit for the above code, by the way. It originally came to me courtesy of Chris Edwards (of PocketMatrix fame), and I've since tinkered with it slightly.
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10-09-2002, 03:42 AM
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Pupil
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 32
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Much Better!!!!
The mobile site is great -- it loads in less than a second on my 500 mhz laptop with 56 kbps modem. The new site is incredibly slow to load, taking over 17 seconds!!!! That's really unworkable, in my opinion.
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10-09-2002, 03:54 AM
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Editor Emeritus
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,060
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Re: Much Better!!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by tonyv
The mobile site is great -- it loads in less than a second on my 500 mhz laptop with 56 kbps modem. The new site is incredibly slow to load, taking over 17 seconds!!!! That's really unworkable, in my opinion.
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Really? On my PC, it loads FASTER than the former version.
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