09-30-2010, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee Yuan Sheng
I do think analysing the features on a paper spec sheet alone will not be enough to determine the success or failure of this platform.
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But what else would the Windows Phone 7 critics do then? 
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09-30-2010, 05:56 PM
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Sage
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Originally Posted by Jason Dunn
But what else would the Windows Phone 7 critics do then? |
Is not it the same that WP7 fans do?
Besides when shopping for a new computer or a smartphone or anything else reading the specs is an integral part of the process to determine if the item fitted my needs.........
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10-01-2010, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason Dunn
But what else would the Windows Phone 7 critics do then? |
They can go call a WAAAHHMBULANCE. :P
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10-01-2010, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Fritzly
Is not it the same that WP7 fans do?
Besides when shopping for a new computer or a smartphone or anything else reading the specs is an integral part of the process to determine if the item fitted my needs.........
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But what seems to be expected by this new team at Microsoft is that sheer enthusiasm for cool-factor qualities is going to sell the new OS. We're not supposed to pay attention to mere hard facts, mere technical specifications, as those unimportant aspects are not Microsoft's intended focus for their intended consumers. And hey, they may well be right! When I see people who used to push hard for MS to make improvements, back in the day, now downplaying the many shortcomings of WP7... all I can think is that a tide has turned, and meaningful, versatile performance of a pocketable computer is no longer of interest to the mainstream. We've slid into a media consumption culture, where practical versatility in such things isn't on the table for discussion. Hence no copy & paste, no tethering, no un-approved freeware (developers must pay a fee to MS in order to give away their apps, unless I've been hearing that one wrong), fewer buttons for reduced quick access to frequently used apps and locked-in functionality for the couple of remaining buttons, no memory expansion (or non-storage accessory expansion for that matter), and on and on the list grows.
But I'm a basher, right? That's all just so much hot air, without substance, right?
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10-01-2010, 02:23 AM
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Magi
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Originally Posted by Paragon
If this is the best that 1000 people can come up with after 2 years of effort I think WP7 has hard time ahead of it.
Dave
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I'm going to reword this because it doesn't sound fair to the multitude of individuals who likely worked very hard doing their job. What I should have said was:
If this is the best Microsoft could manage with 1000 people's best efforts for two years I think WP7 has a hard time ahead of it.
Dave
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10-01-2010, 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Gerard
But I'm a basher, right? That's all just so much hot air, without substance, right?
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No, you're an Android phone user who hasn't figured it out yet. Go buy one. 
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10-01-2010, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason Dunn
No, you're an Android phone user who hasn't figured it out yet. Go buy one. |
No thanks. Ignorant of my true nature as an Android user or not, my Kaiser works just fine with Windows Mobile 6.5.3. Thanks anyway for the free psychological consult. I'll keep using the rather versatile Kaiser until either the Toshiba TG-02 becomes available for use with Rogers or the Kaiser gives up the ghost and I have to go to Android. Unlike some here, I don't hold out a lot of hope for WP7.5 being a significant improvement over WP7.
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10-01-2010, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Fritzly
the iPhone was a "Copernican revolution"; it completely change the paradigm of how to interact with a smartphone.
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Let's not give Apple too much credit. They make products that a well trained monkey could use and a lot of people end up liking them. They market their products extremely well. I don't know why everyone raves about the UI of the iPhone. It sure looks the same as the one on the Wii to me...nothing new there. We could argue over who has a better interface but with widgets and live tiles Android and WinPhone 7 sure have a more powerful/flexible/advanced interface.
I think the good Apple has done has been to make mp3 players and smartphones main stream. They're not just for geeks anymore. So for that I say "Thank you Apple".
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10-01-2010, 04:23 PM
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Win 7 Tethering
I don't get it. I'm a mid-level geek and the crowd I hang with all have wifi, 3.5/3.75G, WiMAX, LTE 4g access. No one tethers to each other in starbucks, etc. We tried it once and the host phone slowed to a crawl that it wasn't useful for the owner. I don't get it.
What is the big hype with tethering? Some market feature invented that we don't really need. I personally don't care if Win 7 ever comes out with tethering unless someone can convince me what the value proposition is of it.
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Originally Posted by Jason Dunn
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/09/24/windows-phone-7-will-not-be-able-to-tether-after-all/' target='_blank'>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010...ther-after-all/</a><br /><br /></div><p>The headline says it all folks. A couple of weeks ago the <a href="http://windowsphonethoughts.com/news/show/100245/will-windows-phone-7-have-tethering-at-no-extra-charge-maybe-maybe-not.html" target="_blank">question about tethering</a> was up in the air, but it seems this is another casualty of Microsoft starting over from scratch: they haven't enabled tethering functionality in Windows Phone 7. Here's where it gets a bit confusing though: when a guy like Bradon Watson, a Director on Windows Phone 7, <a href="http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/09/23/windows-phone-7-can-tether/" target="_blank">says the OS can do tethering</a>, you'd think he'd know what he's talking about. So is this feature ready to go, but no carriers are going to allow it, and Microsoft is playing the role of a good partner by saying it doesn't support it? I don't know Watson, but I'd be shocked if he got such a core detail about the OS wrong. My hunch is that Windows Phone 7 can indeed do tethering, but no carrier wants to enable it right out of the gate. When the final devices ship, I'm sure some enterprising code-spelunker will get to the bottom of this.</p><p>Does this announcement change your desire to purchase a Windows Phone 7 device?</p>
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10-01-2010, 05:03 PM
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While I am the first to say that the iPhone UI is "dated" we have to remember that when it came out it introduced the paradigm to interact with the phone using fingers instead of a stylus. A big change.
I cannot comment about Android because I do not use it; as for WP7 I personally like the GUI but I do not know how "productive" it could be in a day by day scenario yet.
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