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Darius Wey
09-23-2005, 05:00 PM
<img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050924-hw6715Main.jpg" /><br /><br />In the flesh: the HP iPAQ hw6715 Mobile Messenger. I've been asked to remain tight-lipped on where these images came from, but rest assured, they're from a legitimate source. Continue on for an exclusive look at this device. <!><br /><br /><span><b>What is the hw67xx?</b></span><br />Earlier in the year, HP received a mixed response with the release of the iPAQ hw6510/hw6515 Mobile Messenger series. For what it was worth, it was a pretty decent device, but lacked several key features to help set it apart from other Pocket PC Phone Edition devices. Then came the buzz of the iPAQ hw6710/hw6715. We knew it was coming - but questions of "when it would be released" and "what it would include" had yet to be answered.<br /><br />In August, HP made an accidental <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=42216">leak</a> on the upcoming devices. They then realised their mistake, and the information was pulled. Fortunately, a handy button known as "Print Screen" saved the day.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050811-hw6xxx-03.jpg"><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050811-hw6xxx-04.jpg" /></a><br /><i>Figure 1: Leaked information on the iPAQ hw6710. Click the image above for a larger view.</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050811-hw6xxx-05.jpg"><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050811-hw6xxx-06.jpg" /></a><br /><i>Figure 2: Leaked information on the iPAQ hw6715. Click the image above for a larger view.</i><br /><br />Based on these screen captures, the key feature setting the two apart is the inclusion of a 1.3MP camera (as seen in the hw6715). Now, in comparison to the hw65xx series, the hw67xx is one step forward and one step back. The hw67xx offers 128MB of ROM (as opposed to 64MB) and includes integrated Wi-Fi, but it loses the dual SDIO/miniSD slots in preference for a sole miniSD slot. The latter being a questionable move - the device isn't any smaller, so why rid the device of an SDIO slot when so many people loathe miniSD?<br /><br /><span><b>1000 Words...</b></span><br />Enough about that. Let's get this out in the open right away. The pictures speak for themselves.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050924-hw6715-01.jpg" /><br /><i>Figure 3: Despite a couple of minor alterations, the hw67xx looks exactly the same as the hw65xx.</i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050924-hw6715-02.jpg" /><br /><i>Figure 4: Alas, no SD. Could that spell doom for this device?</i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050924-hw6715-03.jpg" /><br /><i>Figure 5: The hw6715's volume slider and camera button.</i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050924-hw6715-04.jpg" /><br /><i>Figure 6: Ooh... chunky!.</i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050924-hw6715-05.jpg" /><br /><i>Figure 7: A look at the all-new hw6715 keyboard. There are a few points to note here - (1) The hw6715's <u>OK</u> key has moved to the left of the <u>Windows</u> key, (2) the <u>Tab</u> key now has a clear secondary <u>Num-Lock</u> function, and (3) the blue <u>Fn</u> key is no longer blue. Finally, the hw6715's keyboard is easier to press than the hw6510/hw6515's.</i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050924-hw6715-06.jpg" /><br /><i>Figure 8: Yup, that's miniSD.</i><br /><PAGEBREAK><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050924-hw6715-07.jpg" /><br /><i>Figure 9: One point worth noting is the inclusion of Windows Mobile 5.0 on the hw67xx series. The phone dialler is shown here.</i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050924-hw6715-08.jpg" /><br /><i>Figure 10: HP's well-known iPAQ Wireless in all its glory.</i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050924-hw6715-09.jpg" /><br /><i>Figure 11: Wi-Fi network detected...</i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050924-hw6715-10.jpg" /><br /><i>Figure 12: ...and phone network connected.</i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050924-hw6715-11.jpg" /><br /><i>Figure 13: Early reports seemed to indicate that the PXA270 processor in the hw6710/hw6715 would only be running at 312MHz. However, this shows the device running at 416MHz. It could just be a feature unique to this pre-production model, though unless we hear otherwise, I think we can assume that HP's new batch of Mobile Messengers will sport a faster processor.</i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050924-hw6715-12.jpg" /><br /><i>Figure 14: And when the lights go down, things start looking cool.</i> ;)<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050924-hw6715-13.jpg" /><br /><i>Figure 15: You can never have too much protection.</i><br /><PAGEBREAK><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050924-hw6715-14.jpg" /><br /><i>Figure 16: HP's QuickStart Tour should have you up and running in no time.</i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050924-hw6715-15.jpg" /><br /><i>Figure 17: The hw6715's Today screen. As you can see, it's <b>definitely</b> Windows Mobile 5.0.</i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050924-hw6715-16.jpg" /><br /><i>Figure 18: A close-up shot of the backlit keyboard. And guess what? It's white!</i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050924-hw6715-17.jpg" /><br /><i>Figure 19: The hw6715 from one angle...</i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050924-hw6715-18.jpg" /><br /><i>Figure 20: ...and another angle.</i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050924-hw6715-19.jpg" /><br /><i>Figure 21: I wasn't sure how useful this shot would be, but I included it anyway.</i><br /><br /><b>Update #1:</b> I've been shot with emails left, right and centre with queries on the screen resolution. It is no different to that of the hw6510/hw6515, and is thus 240 x 240.<br /><br /><b>Update #2:</b> Apart from the variation in processor speeds, every specification on the device correlates with what was leaked by HP in August. Unfortunately, due to the exclusion of an appropriate GPS software package in this pre-production model, testing could not be conducted.<br /><br /><span><b>Upcoming Devices?</b></span><br />Lastly, I've been assured that the rx1950/rx1955 (which we have reported <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=42519">here</a>, <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=42628">here</a> and <a href="http://?">here</a>) is no fake. Specs have yet to be decided on, but if rumours are anything to go by, it will feature a Samsung S3C2442 300MHz processor, 32MB RAM, 64MB ROM, a 3.5" QVGA (240x320) 65K-colour screen, SDIO, 802.11b Wi-Fi, IR, and a 1100mAh Li-Ion battery - all packed into an h4150 shell. The release date is still unknown.

yankeejeep
09-23-2005, 05:39 PM
Hopefully there's more attention to the device detail than the content of the web site. WM 2005 Second Edition?

Since they have both wifi and BT, mini-SD may not be as much of an issue. Sounds like it will be used for storage by most folks since they won't need a card to get one of the wireless connections. And the wifi is G to boot.

I am not a big converged device man, but even I will have to take a look at this as a day-to-day out-and-around device.

Raphael Salgado
09-23-2005, 06:09 PM
I just feel bad for all those who picked up a 6500 series, now thinking they may not get a Windows Mobile 5.0 upgrade. (or is it definite now?)

At least E-TEN announced an upgrade for M500 users while still prepping the M600 for release, even though they're pushing the upgrade way off to ensure enough M600 sales.

Given HP's reputation that destroyed their audience's confidence time and time again in that they will receive continued, thorough support on any HP device they purchase, I will avoid HP like the plague. They seem to abandon their own products faster than a kid with ADD would play with a single toy.

PdaAddict
09-23-2005, 06:52 PM
Thanks but no thanks. I love my Treo 650's 320 by 320 gorgeous bright screen and I will bet the keyboard is much better than the one on HP models. It's too bad that Treo-700w will have the same screen as the HP and no wifi. That kills it for many people who were planning to buy it.

kiwiruss
09-23-2005, 07:31 PM
I like the edge, but think I'll wait for a quadband VGA device.
The Imate JASJAR is getting close to the perfect combo I think.

beedee
09-23-2005, 08:17 PM
Why would anyone give up screen realestate and go for a square screen instead of the standard PPC 240x320 dimension, when it was proven that it can be easily done: SE P910i (Symbian, though) - great solution to combine keypad, keyboard AND large screen. New, upcoming HTC-devices with slide-out keyboard - great! Samsung slide-out devices ... you name it.

If you just need to read some SMS-like-few-character e-mails, a device like this might be OK - but then you may want to go to a toystore rightaway.

For anything more serious, especially for calendars &amp; tasklists that are filled with multipe entries as for most busy people, this kind of square-screen devices will prove unsatisfactory after the first hype with the gadget is over.

denethor
09-23-2005, 08:29 PM
What about the GPS? Is it just a Tom Tom SW or integrated GPS H/W?

magoh9494
09-23-2005, 09:14 PM
When's this device available?

d-roC
09-23-2005, 09:31 PM
Depending on the price and build quality, HP could see this being taken up kinda fast, lest the WM Treo beats it to market. Then it would been too late to make any kind of dent.

deemota
09-24-2005, 01:29 AM
Wow, I was really turned off by the original specs, but if it really has 802.11G, Edge and also has a 416mhz or above processor, then it's definitely my next PPC.

Darius Wey
09-24-2005, 03:08 AM
What about the GPS? Is it just a Tom Tom SW or integrated GPS H/W?

GPS is most definitely integrated. This pre-production model contained no software to test it, but the hardware itself was present.

Darius Wey
09-24-2005, 03:09 AM
When's this device available?

Still not yet known, though it's strongly believed to be January 2006.

Darius Wey
09-24-2005, 03:25 AM
...also has a 416mhz or above processor, then it's definitely my next PPC.

I'm hoping it does too. For some people, a simple CPU statistic is what sets it apart from the others - primarily for the usage of Skype.

MitchellO
09-24-2005, 04:29 AM
The backlight on that keyboard could blind you 8O Looks good though. The things the hw651x should have been all along.

Delta737
09-24-2005, 10:15 AM
For the record, the 65xx also had EDGE.

I don't particularly like this device either. I see no advantage compared to the K-Jam (HTC Wizzard) other than GPS.

Darius Wey
09-24-2005, 05:04 PM
I've had a couple of people ask me what the other specifications of the device are (apart from the processor speed). It's exactly the same as what was leaked by HP in August. However, due to the exclusion of GPS software, we were unable to test it.

To help any first-time readers, I've updated the article with this short note.

Ekkie Tepsupornchai
09-24-2005, 08:12 PM
When's this device available?
Still not yet known, though it's strongly believed to be January 2006.
My sources originally told me January and then changed their outlook to "first quarter 2006" which means it may not be available until February or March... though that is speaking for the US, which was later than other parts of the world with regards to the hw6515.

deemota
09-24-2005, 10:49 PM
January would make absolutely no sense at all. People don't spend money in that month. They are still recovering from Christmas shopping. Believe me, I work in retail. The stores are dead. It would make more sense middle of February through March.

MitchellO
09-24-2005, 11:56 PM
January would make absolutely no sense at all. People don't spend money in that month. They are still recovering from Christmas shopping. Believe me, I work in retail. The stores are dead. It would make more sense middle of February through March.

But there are buyers like me that get (some) money for Christmas. Then I have a reason to spend it :D :D :D

deemota
09-25-2005, 01:17 AM
But there are buyers like me that get (some) money for Christmas. Then I have a reason to spend it :D :D :D

I hear ya, but you're in the minority.....

gabrandt
09-27-2005, 12:53 AM
after the negative posts: HP late to market, not the right size, features, yada, yada, yada. and after the treo annoucement.

this is myscore for WM5 QWERTY devices on the horizon:

Moto Q:
+ good size/design
+ cool
+ GSM expected Q4 05
- WM5 smartphone
- no wifi
- miniSD only
- who knows when

TreoW:
+ good size/design
+ WM5 phone edition
- no wifi
- SD only
- no GSM ver available till H2 06!!

HP 6700:
+ WM5 phone edition
+ wifi G!
+ GPS
+ miniSD only (but with everything else, who cares)
~ decent size/design
~ GSM expected Q1 06

given everything is in there and beating Palm by 1 quarter, what more can HP do? even though Moto makes the holiday season, so what: no wifi and smartphone big minuses for me!

oh yeah, and before you say JasJar, I had one - had it out of the box for less than 2 hours before I repackaged to sell on eBay. sure, it also has great features, but I want a phone next to my ear not a phone book. this brick is unusable without a headset in your ear at all times or in a quiet room where you can use the speaker phone.

to be fair, I was seriously considering the TreoW even though a smartphone and without built-in wifi for size and time to market. but even if the HP slips to the same day, how can you compare?

tjhighpoint2
09-30-2005, 08:04 PM
Does anyone know if the new HP models with WM2005 have switched to using the Microsoft bluetooth stack (like Dell has), or if they've stuck it out with the Widcomm/Broadcom stack?