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Brad Adrian
08-10-2004, 11:00 AM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.ppcw.net/?itemid=2014' target='_blank'>http://www.ppcw.net/?itemid=2014</a><br /><br /></div>Okay, maybe this isn't really "off-topic," but <a href="http://www.ppcw.net/?itemid=2014">Carlo Guerrero at PPCW.Net</a> has this "public service announcement" about a new way to use MSN Messenger:<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/adrian/messenger_small.jpg" /><br /> <br />"This news has been going around for a while now. But finally we can all try out MSN Web Messenger. I went to the website after seeing Paul of MoDaCo sporting a new MSN Messenger icon. So what is MSN Web Messenger? This is what the MSN Web Messenger homepage had to say about it. <br /><br />"MSN Web Messenger lets you talk online and in real-time with friends and family using just a web browser! Use it on any shared computer - at school, at work, at a friend's house or anywhere you can't install the MSN Messenger software."<br /><br />This could be pretty handy at times when you're using a shared PC, like at school or at conferences. You still need a Passport (or reasonable facsimile), but at least this lets you send messages with a PC that doesn't have the regular client software installed. Carlo does a really great job describing how this version of Messenger works, and his article at PPCW.Net has plenty of screen shots.<br /><br />Maybe somebody can answer a question about this, though. I know that some businesses do not allow or block the use of regular messaging clients, like MSN Messenger, AOL Instant Messenger or Yahoo! Messenger. Wouldn't this Web-based version allow employees to sidestep those blocks?

ChristopherTD
08-10-2004, 11:17 AM
It worked at my work site where they are pretty severe about locking out these things. I guess WebSense will lower the boom shortly but at the moment it works through the proxy.

(most of the blocking is performed by WebSense prohibiting access to certain sites)

Arne Hess
08-10-2004, 11:27 AM
Maybe somebody can answer a question about this, though. I know that some businesses do not allow or block the use of regular messaging clients, like MSN Messenger, AOL Instant Messenger or Yahoo! Messenger. Wouldn't this Web-based version allow employees to sidestep those blocks?

Yep, same here as for "ChristopherTD". I can use it on my office PC where I'm not allowed to install anything (because of Admin rights) or if I was able to install it, I wasn't able to connect with the MSN server because of all the firewalls, proxies, etc.
The web stuff is working well and proper! :-)

felixdd
08-10-2004, 11:31 AM
How is this news, when www.e-messenger.net has been around for longer? :?

EDIT: had www.e-messenger.com before. It should be .net

Mike Temporale
08-10-2004, 11:38 AM
How is this news, when www.e-messenger.com has been around for longer? :?

I've been using http://www.phonefox.com for the last little while. However this is news because these clients are not official Microsoft clients. http://webmessenger.msn.com/ is a Microsoft official web based messenger.

I'll have to stick with using a third party, since webmessenger is already blocked :(

popabawa
08-10-2004, 12:40 PM
Sweeet! Working fine here inside my (very severe) corporate network :)

rpvdb
08-10-2004, 12:40 PM
Does not seem to be supported (yet?) from the standard WM2003 IE window.

wocket
08-10-2004, 01:00 PM
"MSN Web Messenger lets you talk online and in real-time with friends and family using just a web browser! Use it on any shared computer - at school, at work, at a friend's house or anywhere you can't install the MSN Messenger software."[/i]



Checking........... Yep it's blocked in our school thank goodness. There is nothing more destracting for the kids than MSN Messenger. And nothing more frustrating for a teacher who does'nt know whats going on.

wocket
08-10-2004, 01:03 PM
How is this news, when www.e-messenger.com has been around for longer? :?

Hi Felixdd

Is your link correct? I tried and got nothing.

Mike Temporale
08-10-2004, 01:20 PM
How is this news, when www.e-messenger.com has been around for longer? :?

Hi Felixdd

Is your link correct? I tried and got nothing.

Sounds like you're looking to check that all web based chat clients are blocked. :wink: E-Messenger is .Net and not .com. http://www.e-messenger.net

As well, you might want to check out this story on Geekzone (http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=3099) from a couple weeks back. They list a couple web based clients. You a couple more are listed on this post (http://www.smartphonethoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6000&) I made on SPT.

butch
08-10-2004, 01:37 PM
Does not seem to be supported (yet?) from the standard WM2003 IE window.The e-messenger mobile (http://mob.e-messenger.net/mobile/) works on my PocketPC

wocket
08-10-2004, 01:44 PM
Sounds like you're looking to check that all web based chat clients are blocked. :wink: E-Messenger is .Net and not .com. http://www.e-messenger.net

As well, you might want to check out this story on Geekzone (http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=3099) from a couple weeks back. They list a couple web based clients. You a couple more are listed on this post (http://www.smartphonethoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6000&) I made on SPT.

Cheers Mike

Thanks for the links, yep you quessed it. Now some more blocking :twisted:

hotweiss
08-10-2004, 02:12 PM
This is great, I'll be able to use MSN at work!!!

Brad Adrian
08-10-2004, 02:18 PM
How is this news, when www.e-messenger.com has been around for longer? :?
Well, because as the PPCW.Net article points out:

• This is an official Microsoft product.
• It integrates with other MSN Messenger users.
• Most of the capabilities of the regular version are retained, like icons, etc.
• Many people are unaware of its existence.

felixdd
08-10-2004, 02:43 PM
How is this news, when www.e-messenger.com has been around for longer? :?

Hi Felixdd

Is your link correct? I tried and got nothing.

Oops! .net, not .com. Corrected!

felixdd
08-10-2004, 02:45 PM
How is this news, when www.e-messenger.com has been around for longer? :?
Well, because as the PPCW.Net article points out:

• This is an official Microsoft product.
• It integrates with other MSN Messenger users.
• Most of the capabilities of the regular version are retained, like icons, etc.
• Many people are unaware of its existence.

That's true. But does it work on a PDA? I know www.e-messenger.net does :)

dean_shan
08-10-2004, 04:17 PM
Pretty slick. It looks and acts just like the .exe version. I think WebMessenger is better then e-messenger. I found it ran faster. But e-messenger also works on Mac not just Windows. Overall I like WebMessenger better, although it would be nice to be able to use it with pop-up blocking turned on.

cookie_monster
08-10-2004, 08:52 PM
:( glad you guys got it working, at my office we are also have MSN etc blocked, as soon as I heard the news I tried it at work but :cry: it didn't work, what to do! :cry:

dean_shan
08-10-2004, 10:01 PM
:( glad you guys got it working, at my office we are also have MSN etc blocked, as soon as I heard the news I tried it at work but :cry: it didn't work, what to do! :cry:

Um work. :wink:

Mike Temporale
08-11-2004, 01:24 AM
:( glad you guys got it working, at my office we are also have MSN etc blocked, as soon as I heard the news I tried it at work but :cry: it didn't work, what to do! :cry:

Try one of the others. I use http://www.phonefox.com

Pat Logsdon
08-11-2004, 02:25 AM
But does it work on a PDA? I know www.e-messenger.net does :)
Not on my 4150, either in PIE or NetFront. I tried using e-messenger.net for awhile, but it always locked up on me after a few minutes. I had better luck using www.msn2go.com, which is java-based, but it's been flaky for the last few weeks.

Arne Hess
08-11-2004, 10:36 AM
ARGH!!! :evil: Forget what I said yesterday:
I can use it on my office PC where I'm not allowed to install anything (because of Admin rights) or if I was able to install it, I wasn't able to connect with the MSN server because of all the firewalls, proxies, etc.
The web stuff is working well and proper! :-)
Today I get the following response if I try to access the page:
Dear collegues,

the internet connection you are using is administratively forbidden, because of the risk of private use.
It was established only for business use.

Denied by SmartFilter: "sex" and "games"
The proxy's access control configuration denies access to the requested object through this proxy.
Damn no - It's neither about sex nor about games, it's about communication and I have a lot of co-workers and business partners in MSN and therefore it makes sense to allow it. If only company would get it what IM services can provide.

Steven Cedrone
08-11-2004, 01:02 PM
Well, the ability to download files through IM is what kills it where I work. And BTW, trying to use a web based version of the software to get past the "no IM" restriction can get you in deep doo-doo. Where I work they actually realize the importances of IM but they do not like all of the functionality it provides "out of the box". They went ahead and created their own IM software that allows employees to IM between each other, and more importantly (if you can prove a business need) will allow you to IM to any other IM client (AOL, Yahoo, MSN, etc)...

It's actually a pretty cool app!

Steve

cherrymaktob
06-05-2008, 09:09 AM
http://www.ppcw.net/?itemid=2014


Okay, maybe this isn't really "off-topic," but Carlo Guerrero at PPCW.Net (http://www.ppcw.net/?itemid=2014) has this "public service announcement" about a new way to use MSN Messenger:

http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/adrian/messenger_small.jpg

"This news has been going around for a while now. But finally we can all try out MSN Web Messenger. I went to the website after seeing Paul of MoDaCo sporting a new MSN Messenger icon. So what is MSN Web e-messenger (http://web2.ajaxprojects.com/web2/projects/Chat/e_messenger.php)? This is what the MSN Web Messenger homepage had to say about it.

"MSN Web Messenger lets you talk online and in real-time with friends and family using just a web browser! Use it on any shared computer - at school, at work, at a friend's house or anywhere you can't install the MSN Messenger software."

This could be pretty handy at times when you're using a shared PC, like at school or at conferences. You still need a Passport (or reasonable facsimile), but at least this lets you send messages with a PC that doesn't have the regular client software installed. Carlo does a really great job describing how this version of Messenger works, and his article at PPCW.Net has plenty of screen shots.

Maybe somebody can answer a question about this, though. I know that some businesses do not allow or block the use of regular messaging clients, like MSN Messenger, AOL Instant Messenger or Yahoo! Messenger. Wouldn't this Web-based version allow employees to sidestep those blocks?

yes you are really messenger is very important to us......

coolus
06-27-2008, 04:56 PM
very good.