MiniStumbler WiFi Scanning Software Updated

[Jonathon Watkins]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.stumbler.net/readme/readme_Mini_0_4_0.html' target='_blank'>http://www.stumbler.net/readme/read...Mini_0_4_0.html</a><br /><br /></div>MiniStumbler version 0.4.0 has just been released. What is it, you might ask? "MiniStumbler is a tool for Windows CE that allows you to detect Wireless Local Area Networks (WLANs) using 802.11b, 802.11a and 802.11g. It has many uses: Verify that your network is set up the way you intended, Find locations with poor coverage in your WLAN, Detect other networks that may be causing interference on your network, Detect unauthorized "rogue" access points in your workplace, Help aim directional antennas for long-haul WLAN links, Use it recreationally for WarDriving." <br /><br /> <img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/Stumbler.gif" /> <br /><br />Don't worry too much about the Windows CE tag, as MiniStumbler works with HPC2000, PocketPC 3.0, PocketPC 2002 and Windows Mobile 2003. New features include support for many more chipsets, use of GPS(!) and a whole bunch of bug fixes and nice little touches. Marius Milner, MiniStumbler's developer also contributed to the book "<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1931836035/stumblerdotne-20/002-6248266-6871255/jasondunn-20/002-6248266-6871255">WarDriving: Drive, Detect, Defend, A Guide to Wireless Security</a>" if you are interested in finding out more about more about Wardriving. [Affiliate]<br /><br />"In most places, it is illegal to use a network without permission from the owner. The definition of "use" is not entirely clear, but it definitely includes using someone else's internet connection or gathering information about what is on the network. It may include getting an IP address via DHCP. It may even include associating with the network. The IP address reporting functionality in MiniStumbler (only available on PocketPC and Windows Mobile 2003) is for you to check the settings of your own network, and for corporate users to identify rogue access points operating within their organization. If you are doing neither of these things, it is suggested that you disable TCP/IP on your wireless adapter. This will help you to avoid possible legal trouble." <br /><br />How much does it cost I can (almost) hear you ask? Well, MiniStumbler is "beggarware", meaning that you don't have to pay for a license to use it. However if you use it and like it, then it's good form to make a donation. (You'll feel much better for it). You can download it <a href="http://www.stumbler.net/download.php?site=1&amp;filename=MiniStumblerInstaller_0_4_0.exe">here</a>. Happy Stumbling! ;-)

[ctmagnus]

:mecry: It still doesn't work with the iPaq 5550's built-in wifi! And I was so hoping I could leave the sleeve at home with this release!

[pewter_tankard]

It still doesn't work with the iPaq 5550's built-in wifi!

Nor with the HP iPaq 4150's built in WiFi. Bummer

[David Johnston]

It still doesn't work with the iPaq 5550's built-in wifi!

Nor with the HP iPaq 4150's built in WiFi. Bummer

Nor with my Symbol (Socket) CF card. D'oh

[brianchris]

It still doesn't work with the iPaq 5550's built-in wifi!

Nor with the HP iPaq 4150's built in WiFi. Bummer

Nor with my Symbol (Socket) CF card. D'oh

I guess I shouldn't be optimistic that it will work with my 5455's built in WiFi? :puppydogeyes:

[DVallot]

Try this (http://www.wififofum.org/) for 55 and 54 series compatibility

[felixdd]

But does PocketWinC work for you guys?

[ombu]

Hmm, works with my SanDisk 128+, although PocketWarrior "sees" two AP broadcasts stumbler doesn't, (showing them yellow and black most of the time) don't know why, maybe stumbler gets only strong signals since it's the same card, same range.

Regards.

EDITED: :evil: It gets my SSID although I selected not to broadcast, grrr, nice security option ehh. :cry: Must be the Query APs for names option.

[R K]

Ok, a few things to note here.

The new version of MiniStumbler primarily adds support for cards with the Prism chipset. This means your Sandisk, D-Link, Linksys, and NetGear cards should work. The Dell TrueMobile 1180 uses a variant of the Orinoco chipset, so it should work as well.
Supposedly, it also adds support for the Atmel chipset which is used on the iPAQ H5400 series. I think I heard from somewhere that the H5500 uses a different WiFi chipset, so H5450 users should try this out even if the H5550 users come back with a negative response.

If you own an iPAQ H4100/H4300/H5500, you should definately check out www.wififofum.org like DVallot suggested.
The author of this project has started with the iPAQs in mind, and it definately does work with my iPAQ H4155. With enough support and maybe even donations, it could definately end up to be as good as, or even better than MiniStumbler.

[ctmagnus]

It still doesn't work with the iPaq 5550's built-in wifi!

Nor with the HP iPaq 4150's built in WiFi. Bummer

Nor with my Symbol (Socket) CF card. D'oh

I guess I shouldn't be optimistic that it will work with my 5455's built in WiFi? :puppydogeyes:

It apparently does work with the 5400s (or so I read).

[ctmagnus]

The new version of MiniStumbler primarily adds support for cards with the Prism chipset. This means your Sandisk, D-Link, Linksys, and NetGear cards should work. The Dell TrueMobile 1180 uses a variant of the Orinoco chipset, so it should work as well.

Thank you. That's considerably clearer than anything I found at the Netstumbler site.

Supposedly, it also adds support for the Atmel chipset which is used on the iPAQ H5400 series. I think I heard from somewhere that the H5500 uses a different WiFi chipset, so H5450 users should try this out even if the H5550 users come back with a negative response.

I've been trying to figure this out since the beginning of August but the best I can get is that MACs with prefix 00028A (such as the wifi in my 5550) are distributed/manufactured/sold by Ambit Microsystems which doesn't help me much.

If you own an iPAQ H4100/H4300/H5500, you should definately check out www.wififofum.org like DVallot suggested.
The author of this project has started with the iPAQs in mind, and it definately does work with my iPAQ H4155. With enough support and maybe even donations, it could definately end up to be as good as, or even better than MiniStumbler.

I've been considering it.

[Sven Johannsen]

But does PocketWinC work for you guys?

PocketWinC works with my 4155 with built in WiFi and with my Symbol and Socket cards in the 2215 and Axim X5. Not free though.

[christak]

Works on HP iPAQ 2210 with Linksys WCF12 and Senao 4.0 drivers...

...can someone tell me how to turn off the sound??

8)

[felixdd]

But does PocketWinC work for you guys?

PocketWinC works with my 4155 with built in WiFi and with my Symbol and Socket cards in the 2215 and Axim X5. Not free though.

Well you can always use the PC-mag edition. It's somewhat crippled but works well for basic stuff.

Tried Stumbler for my Socket LP WLAN CF NIC (that's a lot of acronyms!) Doesn't work.

[Dermot81]

yeah ministumbler not working w/ my 2215 cf ambicom

pocket winc is great though, i got while they were doing that ppc mag promotion...all u had to do was sign up at the ppcmag forum and you got to download pocket winc for free :)

wififofum is nice, but the radar doesn't really work that well. Sure does look cool though :)

[that_kid]

Supposedly, it also adds support for the Atmel chipset which is used on the iPAQ H5400 series. I think I heard from somewhere that the H5500 uses a different WiFi chipset, so H5450 users should try this out even if the H5550 users come back with a negative response.

The 54xx's and 55xx's use the same wifi chipset, even more the modules are the same as well. The 41xx's and 43xx's use the same wifi/bluetooth chipsets.

[ctmagnus]

Odd. I've heard that the 5400s work with the new version, but I couldn't get it to function on my 5550. :confused totally:

Of course, if the screen was a wee bit wider, I could read the whole message that was showing up in that tiny field at the bottom. ;)

[Pat Logsdon]

Thanks for the link to wififofum, dvallot, it works great on my 4150! Too bad NetStumbler doesn't. The 4xxx series have a TI chipset - it would be nice if HP would just find a chipset they like and stick with it. :roll:

[tRiBaLmUnKy]

yeah ministumbler not working w/ my 2215 cf ambicom

pocket winc is great though, i got while they were doing that ppc mag promotion...all u had to do was sign up at the ppcmag forum and you got to download pocket winc for free :)

wififofum is nice, but the radar doesn't really work that well. Sure does look cool though :)

this guy (http://www.netstumbler.org/showthread.php?t=10377) said he got it work on the ambicom

[hollis_f]

Tried Stumbler for my Socket LP WLAN CF NIC (that's a lot of acronyms!) Doesn't work.
I've got one of them - worked perfectly with the new Stumbler on my h2210. I know that Socket recently changes the card (not sure in what way). Mine's a 8510-0028-A. The new card has a -B suffix. Which have you got?

[felixdd]

Tried Stumbler for my Socket LP WLAN CF NIC (that's a lot of acronyms!) Doesn't work.
I've got one of them - worked perfectly with the new Stumbler on my h2210. I know that Socket recently changes the card (not sure in what way). Mine's a 8510-0028-A. The new card has a -B suffix. Which have you got?

I've got an "A" too...hmm....oh well, I'm happy with PocketWinC

[szamot]

But does PocketWinC work for you guys?

works wonders on my 5450, I love it.

[Janak Parekh]

would be nice if HP would just find a chipset they like and stick with it. :roll:
Unlikely to happen, thanks to miniaturization and reduced power consumption as they evolve. :|

Let's just hope that the Netstumbler folks start updating their software more frequently now...

--janak

[jbachandouris]

But does PocketWinC work for you guys?

I wanted to download the PC Magazine version, but you have to be a member and at $19.99 it would be better to just buy the full-version.

[FredMurphy]

I guess I shouldn't be optimistic that it will work with my 5455's built in WiFi? :puppydogeyes:
It works with my 5450. :D

[pivaska]

Is PocketWinC just about the best for a "buy it" type of program to check our APs?

[radioflyer7]

Tried Stumbler for my Socket LP WLAN CF NIC (that's a lot of acronyms!) Doesn't work.
I've got one of them - worked perfectly with the new Stumbler on my h2210. I know that Socket recently changes the card (not sure in what way). Mine's a 8510-0028-A. The new card has a -B suffix. Which have you got?

I've got an "A" too...hmm....oh well, I'm happy with PocketWinC

My Socket LP WLAN CF card is 8510-00186B but miniStumbler does not work with it on my 2210!? Did you have to do any tricks to make it work?

[hollis_f]

Tried Stumbler for my Socket LP WLAN CF NIC (that's a lot of acronyms!) Doesn't work.
I've got one of them - worked perfectly with the new Stumbler on my h2210. I know that Socket recently changes the card (not sure in what way). Mine's a 8510-0028-A. The new card has a -B suffix. Which have you got?

I've got an "A" too...hmm....oh well, I'm happy with PocketWinC

My Socket LP WLAN CF card is 8510-00186B but miniStumbler does not work with it on my 2210!? Did you have to do any tricks to make it work?

No tricks beyond sticking the card in and starting MiniStumbler.