SD Driver Patch For iPAQ 2215

[Ed Hansberry]

<a href="http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/HandheldiPAQ/us/download/20674.html">http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/HandheldiPAQ/us/download/20674.html</a><br /><br />In the <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=26837">iPAQ 5500 ROM update thread</a> some were happy that an issue with apps and books/documents stored on the SD card that would previously be unavailable at power-up had been fixed. Those of us with the 2200 though know that our 1.10 ROM did not fix that issue. Seems HP knows it too. They have released a RAM patch for this problem. It works on all iPAQ 2200 devices with ROM 1.0 <i>or</i> 1.10. From the ReadMe included in the download:<br /><br />• This update limits the power consumption an SDIO card or peripheral can draw during standby or sleep mode.<br />• Fixes SD Card initialization issue.<br /><br />I installed it and it seems to work. I didn't do a before and after snapshot of my RAM :oops: but the two main files are under 50K each, so it seems the 1MB required for installation is just for the .CAB, which is removed after the install. Continue reading for additional information. <!><br /><br />The file included in this SoftPaq contains the improvements described above. This is a RAM patch update. Once installed, the device will store the changes in the RAM.<br />1. Be sure to back up all of the data on the Pocket PC before beginning the installation process.<br />2. Ensure that the device has a minimum of 1.0 MB of free system RAM. 3. It is important to keep the device connected to your power adapter during the installation process.<br /><br />Updating your Pocket PC while connected to a desktop computer<br />1. Ensure the device is docked and connected to a desktop computer that has Microsoft® ActiveSync® v3.7 or later installed and running.<br />2. Apply A/C power to the iPAQ Pocket PC.<br />3. Launch the SoftPaq update. <br />4. Follow the on-screen instructions and dialog boxes.<br /><br /><b>WARNING</b> I've never seen these warnings for RAM updates, only XIP updates. 8O <br />• Do not enable the device password feature during the update process. <br />• Do not attempt to turn off or restart the device while the update is in progress.<br />• Do not enable “Show information when device is turned on” feature during the update process. To disable, simply click “Owner” on the today screen and uncheck the box at the bottom of the page, then click the “Notes” tab at the bottom of the page and uncheck “Show information when device is turned on” located at the bottom of the page.

[rpommier]

Might this be the reason I'm noicing faster battery drains on my 2210? If so I'll try it, I usually don't do the updates that reside in RAM.

[ctitanic]

yeap, hp is claiming back the RAM that you got from the latest ROM update

[reddeerguy]

Hmmm : "Fixes SD Card initialization issue."

Maybe this is why my 512mb lexar SD card is, most annoyingly, not recognized at all from time to time. IE - the machine doesn't even think a card is in the slot. I almost sent my ipaq paq'ng as this is the second card I've gone through in 6 months (my last one was a 256mb Sandisk so I assumed it was a notorious Sandisk quality issue..). Anyway - I've found that if I take my SD card to future shop and put it in and out of various PALM devices, then when I put it back in my 2210 it works fine (it doesn't work if I put it in and out of other PPC devices). Go figure . . . . Anyway - hopefully this fix will help!! Anyone heard of this problem before?

[Robb Bates]

Has anyone mysteriously lost all data on an SD card? I did a while back and I figured I accidentally deleted the "My Documents" folder. Maybe it was caused by the problem that this update fixes.

Robb

[happety]

When I have an app running from my SD Card, then turn my PPC off, then back on, I often get a card initialization error, but I thought that was normal since the card is not being supplied power at that point.

All of my startup apps are in the IPAQ file store for this reason. Other than that, I've never had an initialization error...

[ctitanic]

Has anyone mysteriously lost all data on an SD card? I did a while back and I figured I accidentally deleted the "My Documents" folder. Maybe it was caused by the problem that this update fixes.

Robb

I got an email from an users reporting almost the samething but he did not give me many details about how it happens, he thought that was a bug in one of my programs and the only thing that the program did was to change the location of some temp files in the registry. After that the OS should create a folder in his SD card, in that moment he said that he lost all the information in his SD Card. Evidently the OS replaced the whole FAT.

[SuperPaqMan]

After a soft reset any program that was in my programs list would show a "ghost" icon if it was in my startup folder. If I attempted to click it, windows would say that it could not find the program. Programs like Wisbar would not initialize after a soft reset. This seems to be fixed now after the update. Its about darn time...

[ctitanic]

Into, this driver just take around 76 kb of RAM and it replace two dlls.

[Robb Bates]

Evidently the OS replaced the whole FAT.

It will do that? Hmmm, maybe that's what happened to mine. Are you saying the OS will look for a properly formatted card and if it doesn't like how it's formatted, it will reformat it?

I had formatted my 512MB SanDisk SD card with FAT32.

On a side note, be careful when you put your SD cards into some camcorders with built in SD slots. They like to reformat your card too. :(

Robb

[mistame]

Hmmm : "Fixes SD Card initialization issue."

Maybe this is why my 512mb lexar SD card is, most annoyingly, not recognized at all from time to time. IE - the machine doesn't even think a card is in the slot. I almost sent my ipaq paq'ng as this is the second card I've gone through in 6 months (my last one was a 256mb Sandisk so I assumed it was a notorious Sandisk quality issue..). Anyway - I've found that if I take my SD card to future shop and put it in and out of various PALM devices, then when I put it back in my 2210 it works fine (it doesn't work if I put it in and out of other PPC devices). Go figure . . . . Anyway - hopefully this fix will help!! Anyone heard of this problem before?

I have the same problem. Many times my 2200 doesn't recognize there's an SD card in the slot at all (Lexar 256mb 32x). I don't know about the Palm trick, but I usually take the card out and blow in the slot, figuring it's just dirty or dusty in there then stick it back in, which doens't always work right away. I hope this fixes it too.

[Robb Bates]

I don't know about the Palm trick, but I usually take the card out and blow in the slot, figuring it's just dirty or dusty in there then stick it back in

Maybe it was a software problem the whole time. I guess you were just blowing a lot of hot air. :wink:

Robb

[Iamzim]

I upgraded to 2210 1.10 ROM with the SD patch this morning and what I have find so far are:
1. I can't create a shortcut for programs installed on SD card through activesync; but I can create one using total commender runing on my PPC.

2. Some programs can't be installed to SD card anymore. They generaly report SD card not ready error.

[Jimmy Dodd]

I started to install this, but I think I'll hold off for a while. My SD slot is used for memory only (no SDIO peripherals), and aside from eSword whacking out everytime I shutdown and startup I've been OK with storing files on the card.

Someone else gets to be the guinea pig on this one. :wink:

[Anthony Caruana]

:soapbox:

OK - so there's a patch for the SD. Well done for fixing it HP. However, why can't these core driver fixes be XIPs that go straight to ROM? Having just reclained a bunch of RAM I am now having to start giving it back.

I know it's only 76K but that's not the point. The ROMs in these devices are writable for precisely this reason. It's so when there are OS updates they can be delivered without costing the device owner precious RAM.

Also, if this fix is in the 5550 ROM update and it was known for the 2210 then why was it not in the 1.10 ROM update? Obviously the fix was in development so why was it not in that ROM.

[bljarv]

Some update this turned out to be. I have found after doing multiple hard resets now that my 2215 now behaves wonderfully as long as I have the secure digital card removed when I do a soft reset. If I leave it in when I reset, I get the reset progress bar that goes across and then just hangs right at the end.

If I pull out the SD card and do a reset, I can get my device to come back up. That's not right!!!

Anyone else had any problems?

[Ed Hansberry]

Some update this turned out to be. I have found after doing multiple hard resets now that my 2215 now behaves wonderfully as long as I have the secure digital card removed when I do a soft reset. If I leave it in when I reset, I get the reset progress bar that goes across and then just hangs right at the end.

If I pull out the SD card and do a reset, I can get my device to come back up. That's not right!!!

Anyone else had any problems?
Just tried it with my SD card in place. Comes up just fine. Not sure why yours is hanging. :|

[bljarv]

Just tried it with my SD card in place. Comes up just fine. Not sure why yours is hanging. :|

The rep from HP (did an Instant Support Chat with someone there) said that you shouldn't try to do a soft reset (or hard for that matter) with the SD card in.

I asked if that is normal behavior for a system to hang when it's reset with a SD card in.

Their response was "Yes". :twisted:

[Ekkie Tepsupornchai]

I asked if that is normal behavior for a system to hang when it's reset with a SD card in.

Their response was "Yes". :twisted:
WHAAAAATTTTT!!???!!??

I don't even recognize what the SD card issue is so I'll just hold off on this update. I soft reset my device once every few days just for housecleaning purposes and I've ALWAYS had an SD card inside the slot. Have also always had an SD card in my CF slot as well (via SD-to-CF adapter). Never an issue resetting.

Perhaps I've never seen this initialization issue because I only install games and large (or rarely used) apps onto my SD card. Rest of the space is for music and videos.

[T4RZ4N]

Has anyone mysteriously lost all data on an SD card? I did a while back and I figured I accidentally deleted the "My Documents" folder. Maybe it was caused by the problem that this update fixes.

Robb

Yes!!!!! :twisted:
It happened to me just last week and it so happened when I was overseas with no access to computer.
I'm sure I didn't do anything to my SD card, but suddenly my SD card ONLY has "ignore_my_docs" file left in it.
Lost all my Documents folder, my NoteM Recordings, my Musics, my Wallet file, TextMaker folder, Bible folder, and a couple bunch of data inside. :(
I still can't figured out what happened.

On the similar note, I would to confirm, if this update solve my issue.
The issue is when I turn on my 2210, then click start, it will take a couple of seconds before my start menu pops up. It happens only if any of my recent shortcuts (the 5 icons on top) points to an apps in SD card.
Similarly, if I go to Start/Programs/Games, my 2210 will stop responding for a while waiting for it to load all icons in Games folder from my SD card.
Will this update solve it?

[Ekkie Tepsupornchai]

The issue is when I turn on my 2210, then click start, it will take a couple of seconds before my start menu pops up. It happens only if any of my recent shortcuts (the 5 icons on top) points to an apps in SD card.
Similarly, if I go to Start/Programs/Games, my 2210 will stop responding for a while waiting for it to load all icons in Games folder from my SD card.
Will this update solve it?
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see this behavior changing

What you're describing has been characteristic all 3 PPC devices I've owned going back to my Casio EM500 (3+ years ago). All of them supported SD cards.

What I do to alleviate the delay is install all of my most frequently used apps in RAM. I never link to apps that get installed into the SD card from the start menu, including games.

BTW, the reason why games take a while to appear is because games tend to have large executable files and the OS is scanning the executable for the icon. Once it finds the icon, it loads it into memory which is why you only see that delay the 1st time after you soft-reset.

[christak]

Just tried it with my SD card in place. Comes up just fine. Not sure why yours is hanging. :|

The rep from HP (did an Instant Support Chat with someone there) said that you shouldn't try to do a soft reset (or hard for that matter) with the SD card in.

I asked if that is normal behavior for a system to hang when it's reset with a SD card in.

Their response was "Yes". :twisted:

That's a crock!! I'm seeing this same hang on "some" soft resets with my upgraded 2210 -- Never had this problem prior to this "upgrade". I could soft reset anytime I wanted with my SD and CF cards in and all worked fine. HP software is really starting to be a joke...

[njb42]

That's a crock!! I'm seeing this same hang on "some" soft resets with my upgraded 2210 -- Never had this problem prior to this "upgrade". I could soft reset anytime I wanted with my SD and CF cards in and all worked fine. HP software is really starting to be a joke...

I've been having the hang-on-reset problem since I upgraded the ROM to 1.10. I haven't installed the SDIO patch yet. Happened with a Lexar 256MB installed.

[chunkymonkey75]

I'm sticking with 1.00 for now....

[christak]

I've been having the hang-on-reset problem since I upgraded the ROM to 1.10. I haven't installed the SDIO patch yet. Happened with a Lexar 256MB installed.

Not me... only since this patch. The ROM 1.1 upgrade did not seem to cause this issue in my case. Does not happen every time I soft reset either... (2210 with SanDisk 256MB SD card and Viking 1GB CF card installed)

[Jason Lee]

So what i get is that the SD update has caused problems for some. The 1.10 update had caused problem for some.
Does the SD update fix the 1.10 problems?
What about those that didn't have problems until after installing he SD update?
I have the slight lagg when there is a short cut from a program installed on my SD card on the recently used apps after boot, and the lag in the games folder. I assume it does not fix this? Not that big of an issue. I actually expect that to happen.
Loosing data is bad. Some say the lost data after installing the SD update. Some lost data before the SD update.

If I have no problems now with the 1.10 update should I install the SD update?

These guys (http://www.todopocketpc.com/foro/showthread.php?p=121313#post121313) seem to think so.

What to do....?

[ctitanic]

So what i get is that the SD update has caused problems for some. The 1.10 update had caused problem for some.
Does the SD update fix the 1.10 problems?
What about those that didn't have problems until after installing he SD update?
If I have no problems now with the 1.10 update should I install the SD update?

These guys (http://www.todopocketpc.com/foro/showthread.php?p=121313#post121313) seem to think so.

What to do....?

What These guys (http://www.todopocketpc.com/foro/showthread.php?p=121313#post121313) think is that both ROMs versions had some bugs in the SDIO driver but after the 1.10 update out there are more people reporting problems with the initialization of the SD card than before but it could be that those problems where there in the old ROM and nobody said anything about it.

My recommendation is to install the patch as soon as possible in both ROMs.

[Jason Lee]

What These guys (http://www.todopocketpc.com/foro/showthread.php?p=121313#post121313) think is that both ROMs versions had some bugs in the SDIO driver but after the 1.10 update out there are more people reporting problems with the initialization of the SD card than before but it could be that those problems where there in the old ROM and nobody said anything about it.

My recommendation is to install the patch as soon as possible in both ROMs.

Hey you are those guys... ;)

Thanks for the quick response. I was just afraid of creating problems where I have none and also afraid of not patching a problem that is there and has just not bitten me yet. :)

[ctitanic]

What These guys (http://www.todopocketpc.com/foro/showthread.php?p=121313#post121313) think is that both ROMs versions had some bugs in the SDIO driver but after the 1.10 update out there are more people reporting problems with the initialization of the SD card than before but it could be that those problems where there in the old ROM and nobody said anything about it.

My recommendation is to install the patch as soon as possible in both ROMs.

Hey you are those guys... ;)

Thanks for the quick response. I was just afraid of creating problems where I have none and also afraid of not patching a problem that is there and has just not bitten me yet. :)

Well, if it´s not broken don´t fix it.

I never had any problem with mine but after I received some reports from one user and one of my beta testers I decided to install the patch and so far so good.

Here are the links of some of the threads where people are reporting problems...

http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=103643
http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=102806
http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=679875#post679875
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=235948#235948

[christak]

I have only had a problem with the soft resets and not every time. I'd do it again - both the ROM and patch upgrades... But, I tend to agree if you don't need to update, don't. I wanted to reclaim some RAM and wanted to rearrange some other things, so the upgrades made sense for me.

[Sheena]

I've been having the hang-on-reset problem since I upgraded the ROM to 1.10. I haven't installed the SDIO patch yet. Happened with a Lexar 256MB installed.Not me... only since this patch. The ROM 1.1 upgrade did not seem to cause this issue in my case. Does not happen every time I soft reset either... (2210 with SanDisk 256MB SD card and Viking 1GB CF card installed)
I've never ran any ROM upgrades or patches yet (hell, I just found out there were some! :oops: ), so in that regard my 2210 is running pretty much as shipped. Now, I've ALWAYS done soft resets with both cards installed (Lexar 256MB SD & SanDisk 1GB CF) without problems. None of the other problems listed on this thread either, but then (except for a few small games) I don't run applications from any of the cards, only documents, music & the big libraries for the dictionaries & maps.

My question is, should I run these patches? As I install more programs the iPaq memory will get more crowded so I might end up running more stuff from the cards. Should I wait until then? :?

On the other topic, all my cards are backed up as frequently as the iPaq itself (several times a week if not daily). No problems yet, but if I lose them or they are damaged (or reformatted! 8O ), the consequences could be dire.

Thanks for the help as well as the news.

Rosie

[christak]

My question is, should I run these patches? As I install more programs the iPaq memory will get more crowded so I might end up running more stuff from the cards. Should I wait until then? :?



My iPAQ has settled down -- don't know what is different, but I have done several soft resets since installing the patch and I'm really not having a problem at this time...

So, based on my limited experience with this issue, I'd say go for it. The patch (and ROM upgrade) seem to be pretty solid -at least for me and I'm a pretty heavy user with close to 60 apps loaded on my 2210. The ROM upgrade will save you some RAM, if you want the latest versions of the Reader, etc...

8)

[ironguy]

OK. I set up my wifi at home. Easy. I took out my ipaq 2215, removed the SD card and inserted the socket wifi card. No workee. I took it out and put the SD mem card back in. No workee now either.

I have the ROM 1.1 and the SD update installed.

It doesn't seem to matter whether I insert or remove with power on or off. I can't read anything. Has anyone found a fix or is it back to HP?

[Ed Hansberry]

It doesn't seem to matter whether I insert or remove with power on or off. I can't read anything. Has anyone found a fix or is it back to HP?
Sounds hardware related. It isn't ROM 1.1 and the SD patch. I have both installed on my 2215.

[ironguy]

I bit the bullet and did a hard reset. Still no joy so it seems to be a hardware problem. I called HP and I'm getting a next day exchange on Monday.

This really bites because my wifi network is up and running at home.

Rats...

[jhmd]

I have this problem, but I havent lost data, its just my SD card isnt recognized anymore by my Ipaq 2215 after updating to ROM 1.10. SDIO driver update is unable to fix my problem. I used a Lexar's 256MB SD card as main memory card. But I gave up trying to solve this issue. The only solution its out of hand, reinstalling original ROM 1.0 which I dont have the installation file. And the HP-Microsoft guys are waiting too much to release WM2003 SE for Ipaq 2215. So I bought another SD card, and hope it works well.