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Crystal Eitle
06-25-2003, 11:30 PM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.mobi-mania.com/index.php?xCnt=plus/comment&id=2160&title=Commenta' target='_blank'>http://www.mobi-mania.com/index.php...&title=Commenta</a><br /><br /></div>French site Mobi-Mania has gotten their hands on some <a href="http://www.mobi-mania.com/index.php?xCnt=plus/comment&id=2160&title=Commenta">photos</a> of the prototype for the new Gateway Pocket PC.<br /><br />The speaker design is kind of cute; it looks like the Gateway Pocket PC may have dual speakers, and not just pretend speaker holes on one side for symmetry. And check it out, ladies and gentlemen! It has a scroll wheel!

johncruise
06-25-2003, 11:33 PM
And check it out, ladies and gentlemen! It has a scroll wheel!

definitely a rocker (im basing from the big thump i'm seeing from the top of the "scroll wheel"). It would have been nice if it's a "true" jog dial. :wink:

willkess71
06-25-2003, 11:35 PM
I would swear that this puppy looks pretty much like the 5xx Jornadas. It only seems to lack the cover. I wonder if the folks who designed that are working for the ODM Gateway is using for their pda?

Reinaldo
06-25-2003, 11:37 PM
French site Mobi-Mania has gotten their hands on some photos (http://www.mobi-mania.com/index.php?xCnt=plus/comment&id=2160&title=Commenta) of the prototype for the new Gateway Pocket PC.

The speaker design is kind of cute; it looks like the Gateway Pocket PC may have dual speakers, and not just pretend speaker holes on one side for symmetry. And check it out, ladies and gentlemen! It has a scroll wheel!

So, it is a prototype, right?
8O

I don't like the fact that they have a switch to pull out the backup battery (if I had it, I would be accidentally pushing it over and over again or scraping my hand with it) and the button layout doesn't seem good for games (emulators will be tough to play on this thing) , but otherwise it looks pretty good.

Well rounded and well shaped. Would be cool if they released color covers like on the Cassio. This PDA looks like its aimed to the consumer market at last, with the double speakers and all.

powder2000
06-25-2003, 11:43 PM
Looks pretty neat! Anyone notice the cradle, looks like it's collapsable(for those travelors out there).

dcharles18
06-25-2003, 11:43 PM
U-G-L-Y :pukeface2:

wizardmaster2k
06-25-2003, 11:45 PM
I like this devise. I like the way it looks and the color. Nice to see another company making PPC's.

Pat Logsdon
06-25-2003, 11:46 PM
Looks ok, but the speaker holes look very odd...what's with the weird shapes? :confused totally:

entropy1980
06-25-2003, 11:50 PM
Looks better than the first small picture but still way too big!!!

Enderet
06-25-2003, 11:50 PM
It is a very nice PPC. If it does have 2 speakers thats going to be nice...and plus the cf and sd slots are also something thats welcome. Now i just want to see one in person to see how the screen is in relation to the ipaqs. Oh and whats the price supposed to be? 300-350?

Enderet
06-25-2003, 11:52 PM
Looks pretty neat! Anyone notice the cradle, looks like it's collapsable(for those travelors out there).

Yeah it does seem like a collapsable cradle... very neat.

Crystal Eitle
06-25-2003, 11:57 PM
Looks pretty neat! Anyone notice the cradle, looks like it's collapsable(for those travelors out there).
Oh yeah, it does look collapsible. That would explain the funny shape. Cool!

Kati Compton
06-26-2003, 12:04 AM
I still say that 2 speakers on a PDA isn't going to be much better than 1 speaker on a PDA... But I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

Enderet
06-26-2003, 12:36 AM
mmm Well now we have real pics of the Gateway PPC...and my question is... where is Dell? :grumble:

szamot
06-26-2003, 12:41 AM
the speakers really do resemble a patch cow logo don't they. I have not made up my mind as to what I think of it though.

Kirkaiya
06-26-2003, 12:46 AM
I think this (Gateway) looks like the Mitac models/prototypes that were seen (or pictures of which were seen) floating around a few months ago.

Anybody know who the manufacturer is? (is it the same as the Mitac units?)

questionlp
06-26-2003, 12:48 AM
I hope it's just a design prototype and not what it would look like in reality... I still think it doesn't look so good.

The one thing I /do/ want to know about is: what is the yellow PDA in the background, in the first picture? It doesn't look like an iPaq or a Loox. Anyone know what it is and have links to other pictures? :D

sponge
06-26-2003, 12:59 AM
Looks like a GPS unit or someodd.

Scott R
06-26-2003, 01:08 AM
They say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm beholding this to be butt ugly.

Scott

Kiyoshi
06-26-2003, 01:36 AM
I would have to agree that these things look quite ugly. Looks like those old Jornadas with the enormous space under the screen except Gateway added a directional pad. Maybe if there are some hidden features to make this cool.......I can see the ad's now.....

Pocket PC with STEREO SOUND!!!

dhpss
06-26-2003, 01:41 AM
I notice, the large bevel around the display, another larger size screen may be in the work ...perhaps! (a la Toshiba)

David Prahl
06-26-2003, 01:44 AM
They DO look like great speakers!

Has anyone else noticed that the bottom of the 100x looks like the front of a car? (the speakers are the headlights, etc.) :D

Too bad the case is plastic and it only has 32 MB...I guess that's why they can sell it for $299.

How long do you think until they start playing the "high-end / low-end" game like Dell is probably going to do? (200x and 300x??)

ntractv
06-26-2003, 02:07 AM
Uhhhhhh, I might be wrong, but, I don't think those are dual speakers on device as it looks. I remember reading on this sight somewhere that it did in fact look like speakers but they were just design.

ntractv
06-26-2003, 02:17 AM
I knew I had read it. Those bevels on the bottom of the device are for grip control. Here is the link (http://www.cnet.com/techtrends/0-6014-8-21293677-1.html?tag=mp)

bbarker
06-26-2003, 02:23 AM
It sounds like many people think a PDA that doesn't look like an iPaq is ugly. To me, the 3000/5000 series iPaqs are ugly and this Gateway looks pretty good. It also has decent specs, including 64MB RAM according to the CNet article (http://www.cnet.com/techtrends/0-6014-8-21293677-1.html?tag=mp).

mv
06-26-2003, 02:23 AM
I love scroll wheels! i miss my jornada 548 for that reason! the pad on the iPAQ is not as good as the scroll wheel...

Enderet
06-26-2003, 02:42 AM
I knew I had read it. Those bevels on the bottom of the device are for grip control. Here is the link (http://www.cnet.com/techtrends/0-6014-8-21293677-1.html?tag=mp)

I have to disagree with you and the cnet guys.... those are definetely speakers.....But of course... I could be wrong.

pez
06-26-2003, 03:05 AM
WOW That is the UGLIEST thing I have ever seen.. Another Gateway flop :| I can just see it now.. This will send there stock tumbling from 3 dollars to 1 :|

droppedd
06-26-2003, 03:36 AM
again, this is an older prototype; they may or not be speakers on the final device.

Now I know you all think it'd be cool to have "stereo" on a pocket PC, but from an audio point of view it would be a BAD move. The unit is so small that the benefit in sound you'd get from stereo is negated by how close together the speakers are. And it would benefit more (when speakers are that small) from an increase in the size and power of ONE speaker than putting multiple teeny ones in. Not worth it.

Hey, they could always put two more speakers on the top, one in the D-Pad and one in the back and you've got surround sound. :roll:

Any electric guitarist will know what i'm talking about - if you want a fuller range of sound reproduction, do you get a 2x8" cab (that is, 2 8" speakers in a cabinet) or a 1x12" (a single 12" speaker)? It's a no-brainer (unless you play a super-high pitched instrument and dislike having any bass).

Anyways, in short Gateway was smart to drop the dual speakers from the final unit (assuming the newer news about the unit is more accurate than the older prototype).

Although i agree- this thing is ugly as hell. I'll stick with the Asus A620 when it comes out - it's got a CF slot and is thin and pretty :-)

dean_shan
06-26-2003, 03:48 AM
Like I've said before, they are really taking the cow theme to heart. Putting a cow logo is one thing but molding the shape of a product to look like one is just a bad idea. On the plus side they put in a scroll wheel. I think all PPCs should have one.

pschultz
06-26-2003, 03:49 AM
U-G-L-Y :pukeface2:
I'm with ya on that one.

Foo Fighter
06-26-2003, 03:52 AM
Good God! This is even uglier than the original leaked photo! I especially dislike the "ant holes" speaker design. :pukeface2:

ipaq38vette
06-26-2003, 04:05 AM
Any electric guitarist will know what i'm talking about - if you want a fuller range of sound reproduction, do you get a 2x8" cab (that is, 2 8" speakers in a cabinet) or a 1x12" (a single 12" speaker)? It's a no-brainer (unless you play a super-high pitched instrument and dislike having any bass).

How about dual 32" stacked cabs! :devilboy:

I have an O L D guitar with a builtin 4" speaker and sound is not bad at all.

rock on

jizmo
06-26-2003, 04:49 AM
Huh,

it seems to me that Gateway bashing is sort of a sport between the geeks, the bad-mouthing started well before we even saw the first photos. So what's the deal here?

To me, this looks just like the many asian PPC devices out there, not that bad at all. Good to see another huge player entering the scene.

The problem here is that it doesn't stand out from the crowd that much. If it had a 3,8" or 4" screen, it'd stand out from the crowd of 27 similar PPC devices.

/jizmo

Hyperluminal
06-26-2003, 04:49 AM
I agree, it's really ugly. For one thing, while most PPCs nowadays are plastic, they look metallic or at least not like plastic. This Gateway looks very "plasticy", which makes it look really cheap, more so than ones that are actually cheaper, like the Dell.

It also looks big and annoying to carry, and those speakers are really ugly... :idontthinkso:

Jason Dunn
06-26-2003, 05:44 AM
It sounds like many people think a PDA that doesn't look like an iPaq is ugly. To me, the 3000/5000 series iPaqs are ugly and this Gateway looks pretty good. It also has decent specs, including 64MB RAM according to the CNet article (http://www.cnet.com/techtrends/0-6014-8-21293677-1.html?tag=mp).

Ditto - I'm so very tired of the iPAQ look that I applaud any and all Pocket PC OEMs who try to make something that looks unique. I like the 2215 for that very reason - it just looks a little different.

ctmagnus
06-26-2003, 06:21 AM
Maybe they're "speed holes." :)

vassiliphilippov
06-26-2003, 07:01 AM
Funny, this Gateway looks TOO similar to RoverPC P5 - Pocket PC device that can be purchased in Russia last 5-6 months.

Compare:

Gateway:
http://www.mobi-mania.com/imgnews/gateway_proto1.jpg

RoverPC P5:
http://www.roverpc.ru/rpc/gallery/p5/p5-big.jpg

RoverPC P5 was done by Mitak as ODM. So I think Gateway just bought their design. Here is a review of RoverPC P5, I think it can help to understand Gateway Pocket PC (autotranslation form Russian):

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?tt=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.handy.ru%2Fread%2Fread632_544.html&lp=ru_en

Official RoverPC P5 page:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.roverpc.ru%2Fsite%2Frpc%2Fhome.nsf%2FviewWebTechSpecsByCode%2FP007&lp=ru_en&tt=url

Specification:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?tt=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hpc.ru%2Fcgi-bin%2Fdevices%2FhPCruDevices.cgi%3Fid%3D342%26do%3Ddev%26prio%3D3&lp=ru_en

Vassili Philippov
MS-MVP Mobile Devices

Kati Compton
06-26-2003, 07:05 AM
Wow. On those pics only the power LED looks different (horizontal vs. vertical, unless I'm seeing it wrong).

JonnoB
06-26-2003, 07:52 AM
No question about it, the Gateway Pocket PC is based off of the existing Mitac design used in Russia as the Rover. Of course, I assume the OS, CPU, etc are brought up to date.

rosettaZ
06-26-2003, 08:33 AM
after seeing the pictue of rover sitting next to Jornada, this could be the next thing

specially if it has extremely nice audio. Oh i don't know some weird sonic enhancing algorithm that turns two tiny speaker into huge multi aural audio. (ok I made that one up.. but could happen) :oops:

but all in all, not bad at all. put some nice screen and great price, this might even move of the shelves like the Axim.

Stephen Beesley
06-26-2003, 10:39 AM
I would have to agree that these things look quite ugly. Looks like those old Jornadas with the enormous space under the screen except Gateway added a directional pad. Maybe if there are some hidden features to make this cool.......I can see the ad's now.....

Pocket PC with STEREO SOUND!!!

Hey - I hope you aren't dissing the Jornada :D

Actually it is the other Rover PPC shown in the photos in the review (the Rover RoverPCh Pe) that really looks like the Jornada. In fact this pretty much confirms the Mitac link for me as it looks like the same PPC that is sold as the Mitac Mio 338 plus - which IMHO really does look like the Jornada:

http://www.infosync.no/news/2003/04/15/gfx/mio_338_plus_01.jpg http://www.maubert.com/Images/Pdas/Hp/J568small.jpeg

Goldtee

vassiliphilippov
06-26-2003, 10:47 AM
which IMHO really does look like the Jornada:

But Mitac is 120g while Jornada is 173g.

Vassili Philippov

Stephen Beesley
06-26-2003, 11:01 AM
which IMHO really does look like the Jornada:

But Mitac is 120g while Jornada is 173g.

Vassili Philippov

Did I say anything about it "weighing like the Jornada" :wink:

Seriously though, it looks like we are going to be seeing more and more "rebadged" ppcs on the market now.

Goldtee

jpaq
06-26-2003, 02:13 PM
Take a look back at the casing of the Gateway/Rover.
Look specifically at the D-Pad.
Look even more specifically at the corners of the D-Pad where you would normally press for a diagonal.

Looks like Diagonals will be impossible on these as the casing prevents the user from even pushing the D-Pad in diagonal directions.

:shocked!:

questionlp
06-26-2003, 04:17 PM
It sounds like many people think a PDA that doesn't look like an iPaq is ugly.
For me, I never liked the look of the iPaq (mostly when you add those ugly and thick sleeves) or the slate-style look of the Toshiba or Viewsonic PDAs. I personally love the look of the Jornada 56x and the original LOOX and so far, I haven't found a PDA that I don't think looks ugly (either a little or just plain ugly), including the Axim (:pukeface:).

If someone would make something close to the Jornada or the LOOX, replace the up/down pad with a scroll wheel, and make it lighter but still supports SD and CF-II (somehow), then I'm sold. I personally do not care for integrated WiFi or BT, but a good screen is a must too.

Anyway... enough of my babbling and rants.

bbarker
06-26-2003, 05:29 PM
If someone would make something close to the Jornada or the LOOX, replace the up/down pad with a scroll wheel, and make it lighter but still supports SD and CF-II (somehow), then I'm sold. I personally do not care for integrated WiFi or BT, but a good screen is a must too.
The HP h2210 comes so close. It just needs: A screen cover
A scroll wheel or switch
A full 64 MB or 128 MB of user accessible RAMWith these features, along with its great size and two slots, it would almost be the perfect PDA.

rhmorrison
06-26-2003, 05:40 PM
I also have a Jornada 568 and think it is still one of the best looking devices around but I would prefer the scroll wheel from the 52x or 54x series instead of the up/down scroll buttons on the 56x series - EVEN better would be a Sony-like jog dial.

Guess you can't have everything... 8O

bbarker
06-26-2003, 05:50 PM
I also have a Jornada 568 and think it is still one of the best looking devices around but I would prefer the scroll wheel from the 52x or 54x series instead of the up/down scroll buttons on the 56x series - EVEN better would be a Sony-like jog dial.
I don't remember whether it was my Jornada 548 or my old Cassiopeias -- or both -- that had scroll wheels that also were action buttons if you pressed them in. That was better than what's on my Jornada 568.

questionlp
06-26-2003, 05:57 PM
I don't have the 545 anymore, but I think pushing the scroll wheel is the action button since there was no D-pad or an action button on the front of the 52x/54x. It was really nice to scroll through the Inbox or Tasks using the wheel and pushing it in to open up the item. It saved me a bit of time from getting the flat stylus from the lid and navigating through the UI.

jkabaseball
06-26-2003, 10:27 PM
the side buttons are bigger than the front ones :|
its not going to find its way anywhere near my pc