You DID Adjust Your Clock, Right?

[Brad Adrian]

This is just a friendly reminder to set all of your clocks forward on Sunday morning!<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/adrian/clock.jpg" /><br /><br />Unless you happen to live in weird places like Indiana, you'll be late for all of your appointments unless you adjust your clocks for Daylight Savings Time. You also might be late for appointments if you take the time to read all the strange facts about this event at this <a href="http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/">Daylight Savings Time Web Site</a>. Having grown up in Indiana, I especially enjoyed the detailed analysis of just <a href="http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/f.html">why we Hoosiers have such trouble figuring DST out</a>...

[lurch]

Whoo hoo!! Indiana rules! :rock on dude!:

I love not having to worry about changing my clock (because otherwise I would forget every year :oops: )

[Steven Cedrone]

I love not having to worry about changing my clock (because otherwise I would forget every year :oops: )

Twice a year. It's easy to tell you don't have to do it... :wink:

Steve

[Gerard]

Between the automatic DST switching in PPC and PC and the fact that I synch with a local internet time server every morning in CityTime (the iPAQ clock being pathetic to the tune of almost 2 minutes slow every day), I don't need any reminders. I am a bit surprised that anyone else here might either, as we all have Pocket PCs, right? They adjust, perfectly, twice every year. Once back and hour, once forward. So, um, what gives?

[Steven Cedrone]

The PC's and Pocket PC's do it automagically, but you still have to do the VCR's, non-atomic alarm clocks/watches, microwave ovens, etc...

Hopefully, they will all sync to time servers soon enough though... :wink:

Steve

[NeilE]

Of course, Indiana isn't the only place that doesn't switch. If Jason were in town he'd likely point out that Saskatchewan doesn't change either :)

Neil

[Gerard]

Ah, I see. I forget that people festoon their environs with such devices. I'm a 12:00 flasher guy these days with the VCR, and otherwise use only one analogue clock. The oven clock is unreliable, so I never bother looking at it. So when the old DST shifts happen I just see the little message on the PPC and go over to the kitchen wall and bump the big round clock an hour. Stopped wearing a watch when I bought the E-115, almost three years ago now.

[Gerard]

There's a few places in BC that don't switch either, but I always forget which ones. COuld make the life of a travelling salesman a living hell. I wish the whole nonsense never got started. It's all a scam, and whoever is making a bundle off it is gonna get a punch in the nose one of these days... if anyone can figure out what timezone he lives in.

[Marc Zimmermann]

The PC's and Pocket PC's do it automagically, but you still have to do the VCR's [...]
Not if you have a decently modern VCR. My recorders can change time automatically through the time information coming along with teletext.

[TheWolfen]

Wait a minute - we're not the weirdos! It's all the rest of you that are crazy enough to change your clocks. We here in Arizona (and Indiana) have got it right! :mrgreen:

[Iznot Gold]

Here in the UK we did the DST thing last weekend. Hmmm when it comes to small annoying little changes the UK leads the way! :multi:

[lexden]

Here in the UK we changed our clocks a week ago, so are we included in the "wierdos"?

[Video11]

And don't forget, your fire department suggests that you change the batteries in your smoke detector today too! :)

edit: Just reread that, I sound like a Public Service Announcement. Sorry.

[Pony99CA]

Stopped wearing a watch when I bought the E-115, almost three years ago now.
Because taking a Pocket PC out of a pocket or holster, turning it on and looking at those small numbers is so much easier and quicker than looking at a watch? :-)

Seriously, I can't imagine using my Pocket PC as a watch. As a clock, when docked, sure, but not as a watch.

Steve

[SnAPPUrU-nyan-ko]

Thank you for making me lazy, windows CE+XP:
http://users.adelphia.net/~snappurunyanko/temp/daylight.jpg

[Peseta]

Here in the UK we did the DST thing last weekend. Hmmm when it comes to small annoying little changes the UK leads the way! :multi:

Actually, The netherlands changed one hour earlier [because of the time difference]. Does this mean we've actually been leading for once ? :mrgreen:

[cam87513]

Yeah, Indiana's some kind of Twilight Zone, weird weather, weird time...

[Pony99CA]

Yeah, Indiana's some kind of Twilight Zone, weird weather, weird time...
"The West Wing" did an episode where the different time zones in Indiana caused havoc with missed flight connections. It was kind of funny.

Steve

[heliod]

Well, Brad, after I read that paragraph you suggested "What time it is when in Indiana Capital it is noon?", I finally began to understand how your head works :wink:

But it is better like this. As you surely remember me ranting to the Microsoft team, when Israel enters DST I have to virtually move (in my Pocket PC) to Rhyad 8O

[Janak Parekh]

Seriously, I can't imagine using my Pocket PC as a watch. As a clock, when docked, sure, but not as a watch.
Agreed. I have a simpler solution: I recently got a Casio Wave Ceptor watch, that syncs with the Fort Collins NIST tower every morning. It automatically adjusted to DST, and, as I just discovered, helpfully points that out right next to the time in tiny characters. :)

However, my old radio clock, the microwave clock, the VCR clock, etc. all needed to be changed. On the other hand, I'll be thrilled to see the sun last after 7pm. :D

--janak

[RKosin]

Coffe clock not coordinated with alarm so in that one hour of awaiting AM insight to the preceeding thoughts, all that came to mind was...Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow; a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

Need more coffee and less stories of Indiana. :|

[kennyg]

Well, Brad, after I read that paragraph you suggested "What time it is when in Indiana Capital it is noon?", I finally began to understand how your head works :wink:

But it is better like this. As you surely remember me ranting to the Microsoft team, when Israel enters DST I have to virtually move (in my Pocket PC) to Rhyad 8O

The current beta of CityTime (to be officially released in the next few days), corrects DST transition errors in the Pocket PC operating system, for Isreal, Brazil, Iraq, Mexico and some areas in Africa that are now not handled correctly. It also enables the use of automatic DST transition for countries.

You can see the feature list and the beta download here:

http://www.codecity.net/publicbeta.html

[Kati Compton]

Whoo hoo!! Indiana rules! :rock on dude!:

I love not having to worry about changing my clock (because otherwise I would forget every year :oops: )

But instead you have to remember which time zone you're in....

[gtarent]

I personally hate daylight savings time. Young children never adjust correctly in the fall, so by changing the clock I effectively lose an hour of sleep. I still fail to see the daylight savings, I leave for work in the winter and its dark, I come home and its still dark... why bother. :|

[jdavid]

Now with the auto-time update enabled on AT&T phones, that was one less clock to worry about this morning. PPC auto-updated as well.

[dacs29]

The PC's and Pocket PC's do it automagically, but you still have to do the VCR's [...]
Not if you have a decently modern VCR. My recorders can change time automatically through the time information coming along with teletext.

Maybe in Europe where teletext is found on almost all TVs, but in the United States I haven't experienced a single VCR that automatically sets itself.

David

[Gerard]

Guess I am relatively anachronist by nature, preferring the 'pocket watch' sort of thing. A PPC is easily enough powered on, for someone who doesn't look at a clock all that often. I bill for my time as per internal sense of it, not looking at a clock. And the reminders I input keep me from having to check all the time for when clients are coming over.
I don't use a holster, nor all that often keep a PPC in my pocket. Shoulder bag works better, for accessories and all. Kept in the outside pocket of my SunDog, the iAPQ or Casio is very easy to grab.

[lurch]

But instead you have to remember which time zone you're in....

So true...... I'm always asking too: "Are we with the west or east right now?"

[karen]

I grew up in northcentraleastern IN.

I rarely get back there even though my family is still there.

Just for trivia, it's important for those non-Hoosiers to know the area called the Region (just outside of Chicago) DOES follow DST.

...just to make it even more confusing. I had cousins that lived in one zone and went to school in another zone just a mile or so away.

Made for real confusion.

Karen

[Ed Hansberry]

We totally forgot. What started as a morning leisurely ready as we though we had nearly 2 hrs to get ready for church, I turned on my Pocket PC to see shat was on the agenda this afternoon.

Of course, after entering the password, I got the reminder (is that a PPC 2002 reminder or did CityTime do that for me?), yelled to my wife, pushed the kids out of bed and the scramble began! :onfire:

[Pony99CA]

Seriously, I can't imagine using my Pocket PC as a watch. As a clock, when docked, sure, but not as a watch.
Agreed. I have a simpler solution: I recently got a Casio Wave Ceptor watch, that syncs with the Fort Collins NIST tower every morning. It automatically adjusted to DST, and, as I just discovered, helpfully points that out right next to the time in tiny characters. :)

I've seen watches like that, and they looked really cool. The ones I liked were the Junghans Carbon Fiber Atomic Watches (http://www.fsiwebs.com/shopcart3/SC_ProdList.asp?LinkID=O:G9s:UPLlpGc3TlXNqTwqyxG7X8JxHFEzZcbIBfS912shdifhOHUzvwKxqr:AjA). Sadly, they're a bit :roll: more expensive than the Casio (although The Sharper Image (http://www.sharperimage.com/us/en/catalog/productview.jhtml;sessionid=4JSA3DVSHZJJZQFIA2SSHPQ?pid=24486300&http%3A//www.sharperimage.com/us/en/catalog/productview.jhtml%3Fpid=24486300&siteid=GCYIGHUxfCQ-xi8oe5DHZFiHywL33Q5VCw&Lsource=10716&_requestid=71692) is selling one for $150 now, instead of $330).


However, my old radio clock, the microwave clock, the VCR clock, etc. all needed to be changed. On the other hand, I'll be thrilled to see the sun last after 7pm. :D

In Michigan, we had it better. Being on the western edge of the Eastern time zone, we had decent light well past 9 PM at times.

Steve

[Pony99CA]

The PC's and Pocket PC's do it automagically, but you still have to do the VCR's [...]
Not if you have a decently modern VCR. My recorders can change time automatically through the time information coming along with teletext.
Maybe in Europe where teletext is found on almost all TVs, but in the United States I haven't experienced a single VCR that automatically sets itself.

I think there are VCRs and TVs that sync in the states. I believe my Philips VCR does that by getting time information from PBS, but I've never used it. It seems to take longer than just setting it myself.

Adjusting for Daylight Saving Time (not "Savings") is certainly easier now that many devices include DST flags that bump the time up an hour when you set the flag and down an hour when you reset the flag.

Some of my telephones also correctly set their clocks automatically.

Steve

[Brad Adrian]

Well, Brad...I finally began to understand how your head works :wink:
I wouldn't admit to that in public if I were you!

[Brad Adrian]

...Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time...
One of my favorate quotes of all time! I had to learn to deliver it fairly dramatically for school (with the required English accent). Deep sentiments, but thoroughly depressing.

[ctmagnus]

There's a few places in BC that don't switch either, but I always forget which ones.

Creston, for one, but that place has always been kinda whack, imo. I remember heading south on Highway 95 once, being south of the 49th and seeing the back fences of yards of residents of that town right up against the highway. Talk about high border security.

[SassKwatch]

Kept in the outside pocket of my SunDog, the iAPQ or Casio is very easy to grab.

Ok, you can't get away with dropping that SunDog name without an explanation. :)

As one *continually* on the lookout for the perfect gadget case, I'd be mighty beholdin' if'n you coughed up a few details on something you like.

[Gerard]

SunDog is a Seattle company making a huge range of very high quality but very reasonably priced bags, for snowboards, cameras, all manner of stuff. I have still got a 'bumbag' or whatever one calls them these days, purchased in 1987, which saved my life in 1989. I was walking up a fallen tree, alone on a hike, when the top end of the otherwise very solid tree broke off and it and I fell about 10 feet. I landed on my back, on a very pointy branch still interested in being a part of the dead tree. It was also interested in adding my skeleton to the decorations on said tree, but having pierced my water bottle and half my SunDog, it stopped just shy of going through my spine. The last two layers of nylon were puncture resistant enough, it would seem.
Now any old bag would have done the same for me, I'm sure, but it happened that I really liked that bag anyway. Excellent stitching, great design, I used it constantly. Still do.
So when I needed an accessory bag for a trip the summer before last, something to stow my Casio EG-800, CF camera, some cards, an Accurite Travel HD (6GB model), a couple of spare batteries, and a battery extender, I looked at the MOuntain Equipment Coop for a SunDog. Found just the thing right away. It's about 8" wide, 4" thick, and 11" tall, with belt or shoulderstrap options, a key hanger, a couple of hidden pockets, a big main compartment, and a front pouch where the PPC goes. There's relief accordions built in for oversize stuff, but it's really trim and very light. It's got pretty rained on without ever letting a drop at my stuff. Good Fastex, rounded corners, and just generally nice to use. Their stuff is practical, like they field test ever piece. I dunno much about them, but get a good feeling having well made things, and if they cost only about $30 then that's great. This bag is my every-day bag since that trip, and it shows zero wear. Must be magical cloth or something. ;) It's no way a PPC bag, not specifically, but that's probably in its favour too, as it just looks ordinary, not expensive or overtly attractive to thieves.
Their site seems busted, at least for Pocket IE. I can't get at the product pix by the links.
http://www.sundog.com/sundog/index.html

[rlobrecht]

Not if you have a decently modern VCR. My recorders can change time automatically through the time information coming along with teletext.[/quote]

I wish. We have new VCRs that are supposed to do this, but Dish Network doesn't send the signal. Bummer.

[pocketpcdude1024]

...Daylight Savings Time...Daylight Savings Time...
Um... this is what the website about DST said:

The official spelling is Daylight Saving Time, not Daylight SavingS Time.

Saving is used here as a verbal adjective (a participle). It modifies time and tells us more about its nature; namely, that it is characterized by the activity of saving daylight. It is a saving daylight kind of time. Similar examples would be dog walking time or book reading time. Since saving is a verb describing a single type of activity, the form is singular.

Nevertheless, many people feel the word savings (with an 's') flows more mellifluously off the tongue, and Daylight Savings Time is also in common usage, and can be found in dictionaries.

Part of the confusion is because the phrase Daylight Saving Time is inaccurate, since no daylight is actually saved. Daylight Shifting Time would be better, but it is not as politically desirable. In fact, scientifically misguided politicians sometimes misunderstand. In 1995, the British Time (Extra Daylight) Bill was introduced by John Butterfill, attempting the impossible -- to legislate extra daylight. The bill did not pass.

You'll notice I didn't say anything... :wink:

[Janak Parekh]

I've seen watches like that, and they looked really cool. The ones I liked were the Junghans Carbon Fiber Atomic Watches (http://www.fsiwebs.com/shopcart3/SC_ProdList.asp?LinkID=O:G9s:UPLlpGc3TlXNqTwqyxG7X8JxHFEzZcbIBfS912shdifhOHUzvwKxqr:AjA). Sadly, they're a bit :roll: more expensive than the Casio (although The Sharper Image (http://www.sharperimage.com/us/en/catalog/productview.jhtml;sessionid=4JSA3DVSHZJJZQFIA2SSHPQ?pid=24486300&http%3A//www.sharperimage.com/us/en/catalog/productview.jhtml%3Fpid=24486300&siteid=GCYIGHUxfCQ-xi8oe5DHZFiHywL33Q5VCw&Lsource=10716&_requestid=71692) is selling one for $150 now, instead of $330).
Yes, I know... I was tracking them, and almost bought one, but they were too expensive. The Wave Ceptors were a godsend.

In Michigan, we had it better. Being on the western edge of the Eastern time zone, we had decent light well past 9 PM at times.
Well, in July we'll get the light-till-9PM. But quite frankly, all I want right now is less snow (we're forecasted to get 5-8 inches today... in April). The sun'll be up, so we can watch the snow fall until 7pm. :cry:

--janak

[Cypher]

Whoo hoo!! Indiana rules! :rock on dude!:

I love not having to worry about changing my clock (because otherwise I would forget every year :oops: )

But instead you have to remember which time zone you're in....

Not really, we're always in EST (just no DST). The fact that our clocks agree with Michigan half the year and Iowa the other is function of them going on/off DST.

[lurch]

Not really, we're always in EST (just no DST). The fact that our clocks agree with Michigan half the year and Iowa the other is function of them going on/off DST.

It makes a difference when you've got family and friends in different time zones.. if you only know people in Indiana, then who cares what zone we're matched up with? :)

[Crystal Eitle]

Oh man, can I just say that I really really hate the whole "Spring forward" part of Daylight Savings Time? I have to get up at 6:30 every weekday, which of course today it felt like 5:30 to my body. I am a complete and total zombie this morning. :morning:

[ctmagnus]

I looked at the MOuntain Equipment Coop for a SunDog.

Damn. They don't carry them anymore.

[Janak Parekh]

Oh man, can I just say that I really really hate the whole "Spring forward" part of Daylight Savings Time? I have to get up at 6:30 every weekday, which of course today it felt like 5:30 to my body. I am a complete and total zombie this morning. :morning:
You can't complain that much. I usually get up at 5:30am on a daily basis now, and I get to wake up in the dark. :cry:

--janak

[ctmagnus]

I usually get up at 5:30am on a daily basis

Whoa! Commuting time?

[Janak Parekh]

Whoa! Commuting time?
Yeah. I don't have to, but getting in to work by 8AM is really nice - no one is there to bother you :)

--janak

[Brad Adrian]

...but getting in to work by 8AM is really nice - no one is there to bother you
My commute takes about 10 seconds, including the time it take me to put on my slippers. Unfortunately, though, working from home there is ALWAYS somebody here to bother me!

[Janak Parekh]

My commute takes about 10 seconds, including the time it take me to put on my slippers. Unfortunately, though, working from home there is ALWAYS somebody here to bother me!
That's the thing. I could work from home more, but there are advantages of working from an office.

--janak

[ctmagnus]

Around here you can get from one end of town to the other in under ten minutes.

[Gerard]

... on foot. ;) Golden's rather small, if I recall. It's been many years since passing through, but at a guess I'd think a PPC user group there is unlikely.

[ctmagnus]

at a guess I'd think a PPC user group there is unlikely.

Unfortunately so :(

However, some of the doctors have started using PPCs :rock on dude!:

There are even some wireless networks in town!

[Pony99CA]

at a guess I'd think a PPC user group there is unlikely.
Unfortunately so :(

However, some of the doctors have started using PPCs :rock on dude!:

There are even some wireless networks in town!
Some wireless networks? It sounds like one should cover the whole town. :rofl:

Steve