Smartphone 2002 rolls out [Archive] - Thoughts Media Forums

Andy Sjostrom

02-19-2002, 10:50 AM

<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/mobile/phones/smartphone/default.asp">http://www.microsoft.com/mobile/phones/smartphone/default.asp</a> Yesterday, I promised more Smartphone 2002 "much more news about the Smartphone 2002 in the near future!". Sneak preview: Microsoft has made a sneak preview available at their <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/mobile/phones/smartphone/default.asp">Smartphone site</a>. <img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/sp2002.jpg" /> Sony-Erisson to make Smartphone 2002s?: The article <a href="http://wirelesssoftware.info/show1news.php?&ID=40&NPg=&Sr">"Gates throws Stinger cat among EPOC pigeons"</a> speculates that a "deal will see Sony Ericsson implement the U.S. software giant’s Smartphone 2002 platform in its 3G devices, rather than Symbian’s EPOC, which uses the Nokia browser." Smartphone 2002 phones: The <a href="http://www.pocketpc2002press.com/site/home/main500.asp?SiteArea=500c">PocketPC 2002 Press site</a> has some pictures of the Sendo and Texas Instruments Smartphone 2002s. (Thanks to Paul Britton for the link!) <img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/sp2002_ti.jpg" />

innersky

02-19-2002, 11:45 AM

so, where do I buy it ?? :D

JohnnyFlash

02-19-2002, 12:00 PM

Not bad actually. It's good to see that there is unification in the InBox application (though the absence of any FAX facilities is a bit of a shame).

Though I don't think that this picture...
http://www.microsoft.com/mobile/phones/smartphone/images/familiar.jpg
...goes with the headline "The Windows Environment You Are Used To" :?

My conclusion is that there is no comparison between this and the communicator ( www.twyn-y-berllan.com/n9210 - 'Nuff Said ) since the communicator outclasses it on all counts (Software Matters - Word, Spreadsheet, etc. etc.). The real comparison will be with the 7650 (GSM, HSCSD, GPRS & Bluetooth, IrDA, Serial connections). It's certainly not designed for the professional user - or do Micro$oft expect people to buy one of these and a PocketPC? The phone on the main page looks like a gun from Space1999!

http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/sp2002_ti.jpg http://www.nokia.com/phones/7650/pics/7650_index_pu.jpg
i know which one i'd rather whip out in a public place

I know it's superficial, but style counts. Remember when the 7110 first came out? Everybody wanted the phone that looked like the phone from the Matrix. Forget it's excellent functionality, they just wanted to flip a cover!

Notes of interest
Not much said about the calendar application - is that because it is pants? Remember, Software Matters.

Ericsson are, according to the article, doing anything they can to stop their drop. This is, on their part, an act of desparation not inspiration.

And finally.....
:lol: "You Only Need One Hand" - That's why the color screen! :wink:

Andy Sjostrom

02-19-2002, 12:33 PM

I got this over email:

"As we have entered the world of multimedia messaging and mobile colour imaging, it is increasingly important with an open platform which enables products to interact and connect freely", said Anil Raj, corporate executive vice president of Sony Ericsson. "Symbian v7.0 OS will be instrumental for Sony Ericsson when launching our competitive mobile multimedia products", said Mr Raj.

What is the real deal? Anyone knows? Will they go one or both ways?

Sony Ericsson does need something new. The Smartphone 2002 should be regarded as "inspiration", not "desparation". However, in my opinion, Microsoft needs them as much.

JohnnyFlash

02-19-2002, 12:52 PM

IMHO, I should like to see them go both ways for both Stinger and Symbian have a lot to offer the world.

But the practical truth is not that companies think Stinger is pants, they're just scared of Micro$oft getting its claws into them with the kind of exclusive deals that have been imposed on PC makers (ie, if you make a stinger phone, you're not allowed to touch anything else such as Palm or Symbian).

Daniel

02-19-2002, 01:57 PM

I know it's superficial, but style counts. Remember when the 7110 first came out? Everybody wanted the phone that looked like the phone from the Matrix. Forget it's excellent functionality, they just wanted to flip a cover!

I bought a 7110 when they first came out, because of the functionality! The "flip" was just a bonus (as a side note, the phones that were used in The Matrix were modified 8110s, they don't exist!)!

I like it, the "Microsoft/Texas Instruments Smartphone 2002" I think it looks cool actually. Although, it will be a close call for me to go either Smartphone or PPC 2k2 Phone Edition.

style counts
And you want a 9210! Pfft! :roll:

I'll just wait until it pans out a bit more.

daniel

Kilmerr

02-19-2002, 01:59 PM

"...which uses the Nokia browser...."

Odd. A browser is not an Operating System. I thot Ericsson already agreed to use the MS browser. Seems a stretch to say "Smartphone 2002 platform". And Microsoft would be trumpeting and shouting this from the hilltops if it was inked.

Sony Ericsson seemed pretty committed to (Hurricane) Symbian 7.0...

And Sony and Ericsson haven't exactly been Microsofts best buddies of late. Doesn't seem to fit in with current logic. I think the idle speculation is totally off. But I dunno...

Christopher Coulter
www.kilmerr.com

Daniel

02-19-2002, 02:01 PM

I'd almost prefer they went with Symbian! At least they'd benefit from shared software development effort with all of the Nokia devs.

daniel

Mr. Anonymous

02-19-2002, 02:15 PM

marlof

02-19-2002, 02:23 PM

My conclusion is that there is no comparison between this and the communicator ( www.twyn-y-berllan.com/n9210 - 'Nuff Said ) since the communicator outclasses it on all counts (Software Matters - Word, Spreadsheet, etc. etc.). The real comparison will be with the 7650 (GSM, HSCSD, GPRS & Bluetooth, IrDA, Serial connections).

Very true. But on the other hand, I know no one who admires the Communicator for its phone capabilities. I think the Communicator ( which I really dislike BTW, despite all the specs, as I think the keyboard really sucks, and there is no choice in other text entry.... ) will go head to head with the Pocket PC Phone edition (like the Jornada 928), and the 7650 will go head to head with Smartphone 2002 (like the Sendo Z100).

The choice is if you want a PDA that doubles as a phone ( Communicator / Jornada 928 ) or a phone that doubles as a PDA. The main function will dictate the main parts of the size and style of the unit, and the second function will add things to that.

Not much said about the calendar application - is that because it is pants? Remember, Software Matters.

From what I've seen of it I don't think the software is pants. But these stories until so far are limited by nature as they are just previews, not reviews. That being said, I think it will be most important that the Smartphone 2002 is a good phone. When that is accomplished PDA functionality will distinguish it from the rest of the phones, and in that case you're right: software matters!

Marc Zimmermann

02-19-2002, 02:40 PM

It's certainly not designed for the professional user - or do Micro$oft expect people to buy one of these and a PocketPC?

These are two products for quite different markets. For someone who needs a phone with added functionality, take Smartphone 2002. For someone with the need for a small computer which can also be used as a phone, take Pocket PC 2002 Phone Edition.

philfp

02-19-2002, 03:21 PM

I know it's superficial, but style counts. Remember when the 7110 first came out? Everybody wanted the phone that looked like the phone from the Matrix. Forget it's excellent functionality, they just wanted to flip a cover!

Mind you, after owning a Nokia 7110 for a short while I came to realise that it was the worst phone ever designed. Everyone I know who's owned one has the same complaints, that you can't reach the buttons on the bottom row as the flap part-covers them, the keylock doesn't work as it is nullified when the flap comes down and that the phone would turn itself off at unlikely moments (one duff battery I can cope with - we're talking upwards of 15 phones here in my representative sample).

On that record, maybe sticking with the boring-looking phone will be OK... Just to be on the safe side, where is the soft-reset button?

Foo Fighter

02-19-2002, 04:02 PM

Will Smartphone 2002 offer a touch screen inteface, or is it all button/menu input? :?:

Daniel

02-19-2002, 04:03 PM

Mind you, after owning a Nokia 7110 for a short while I came to realise that it was the worst phone ever designed. Everyone I know who's owned one has the same complaints, that you can't reach the buttons on the bottom row as the flap part-covers them, the keylock doesn't work as it is nullified when the flap comes down and that the phone would turn itself off at unlikely moments (one duff battery I can cope with - we're talking upwards of 15 phones here in my representative sample).

Add me to your sample space, the 7110 was the worst phone I have ever owned and has certainly turned me off buying another Nokia without a damn good reason. Mine had all the "features" that you mentioned. The 7650 is another of the 7 series "new design paradigm" models; Give that one a big miss!

I have to say BTW that the T39 is by far the best phone I have owned or used. Excellent. :D

daniel

Daniel

02-19-2002, 04:04 PM

Will Smartphone 2002 offer a touch screen inteface, or is it all button/menu input? :?:

Button/menu. 99% sure.

daniel

JMountford

02-19-2002, 04:24 PM

The interface will be hardware input. IE Joysticks Buttons NOT touch screen. I am sure that an OEM could use touch screens but imagine the price increase!!! Not to mention MS wants "one handed" operation. THe color screen will add price enough. Touch puts it out of reach of normal consumers especially in the current economy.

JMountford

02-19-2002, 04:30 PM

I would normally Agree that "Software Matters", but we are talking phones now NOT PDAs. Yes they are Uber phones but still phones. I want sleek, slick, and classy. Looks will matter in this war. Hardware will matter too and if MS can not face that and embrace it they will lose their war. OEMs I am telling you now Wireless Phones NEED wireless connections. Build in Bluetooth!!!! On top of that Style will Matter! Here is my last piece of advice. I will buy the first "Uber Phone" that is CDMA with a coller screen, built in Bluetooth, and that supports highspeed Data transmission.

Nokia has been on my ****e list for years after they stopped making CDMA phones, and made worse when they stopped making good handsets for the States.

marlof

02-19-2002, 04:34 PM

Button/Menu. 100% sure. :) That's how they make one handed operation possible: you don't need to have the device in one hand, and a stylus in the other. All is done with the keys.

Daniel

02-19-2002, 04:52 PM

Nokia has been on my ****e list for years after they stopped making CDMA phones, and made worse when they stopped making good handsets for the States.

Hey I think you might be interested in this then http://www.infosync.no/show.php?id=1450. They've released a new CDMA phone. It's hardly worth writing home about but it's better than nothing.
The US only has itself to blame for it's crappy range of crappy handsets, it either needs to standardize with the rest of the world or do a Japan and make sure that there are interesting options. I'm guessing that the former is already in the process of happening. I just hope that all the cell companies can agree on one standard and get some good roaming agreements happening.

daniel

JMountford

02-19-2002, 05:01 PM

nirav28

02-19-2002, 05:02 PM

I don't have a 7110 ,but i do have a 7160 from cingular here in the u.s and it would have to agree with you'll that it highly sucks.

The phone has a tendency to shutdown without any reason. I think this is due to the battery contacts on the back of the phone. (it uses the same battery as the 51xx/61xx series). Also the slide becomes loose after some time , so the phone doesn't properly end a call when you shut the slide. Several times, I've had to open and shut the slide to end a call or manually hit "end" .

I bought it because I liked the phone they had in the matrix. this was similar (minus the button to open the slide).

Daniel

02-19-2002, 05:28 PM

Daniel you may be right about standardizing, but I doubt it will ever happen. I find it so blam dang doubtful that Verizon and Sprint PCS have any intention on completely rebuilding their networks to use GSM/GPRS. I do know that AT&T is switching from TDMA to GSM/GPRS so I guess TDMA is gone but CDMA is here for at least a very, very long time. And have you ever noticed that with the exception of onyl a few companies like TI OEMs do not exist in America for cell phones. We rely on out of country Manufacturers for our phones. It kinda bites.

The US really needs change in this area if there is to be real innovation. It's sad but true, kind of a viscious (sp?) cycle: bad networks = no demand = no investment = bad networks.

PS. Thanks for the Infosync link I'll take a look.

No problem. :)

The phone has a tendency to shutdown without any reason. I think this is due to the battery contacts on the back of the phone. (it uses the same battery as the 51xx/61xx series).

Fold a peice of (thin) cardboard over a couple of times and put it in between the phone and the battery, that should "solve" the problem.

Also the slide becomes loose after some time , so the phone doesn't properly end a call when you shut the slide. Several times, I've had to open and shut the slide to end a call or manually hit "end".

I had the automatic-reboot-on-use-of-flip feature, very, very, character building. I am surprised that the phone is still in one peice.

daniel

JonnoB

02-19-2002, 05:48 PM

Just like some services are offering hosted voice dialing, now we can see real use of voice recognition on the phone itself. Hopefully smart enough to check your command against your contacts database.

JMountford

02-19-2002, 06:11 PM

Thanks to Daniel's link I spent some time looking at Infosync. I have always loved this sight. Great scuttle butt they get. I see that Nokia is apparently planning on releasing a 1xrtt CDMA handset. THat would be great especially if it has Bluetooth and works on the Sprint PCS network. Sprint PCS and Nokia had a falling out a few years ago and since then even the Nokia CDMA phones that do get released here in the states do not work on the Sprint PCS network. Politics in technology sucks for the consumers.

I would almost agree that America needs standards but what makes America great is competition take that away and what have we got?

If any one comes across any good CDMA news please let me know. I have been with Sprint PCS too long to switch.

innersky

02-19-2002, 06:55 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1829000/1829606.stm

look at the last paragraph of the article.
Release date end of June ? Duh. :(

Kemas

02-19-2002, 07:16 PM

A little known fact. All of you GSM users, you will be using Wide CDMA before the end of the decade. All carriers are moving to Wide CDMA, as far as I know that includes all European countries. The simple issue is that high data speeds are only possible with this standard. GPRS will go away in a few years and be replaced with Edge, that will give GSM users about 384kbs speeds. Then the next step is Wide CDMA and 2.4 to 4Mbs.

Of course, I really don't believe much of this will happen and wireless data on phones will die a slow and painful death. It will cost the US over 5 billion dollars to get to Wide CDMA and they will never make the money to pay off the switch.

For those who think the mobile phone companies here, AT&T and Cingular (remaining players in TDMA) should have switched to GSM long ago... why? People want to make phone calls, 99% of the time that is all they want to do. Not play games, not send messages, make calls. I don't like TDMA very much, but hell, it works and was almost everywhere that people lived. The build out began long before most networks were being built in Europe when GSM was decided to be the best choice for Europe.

Sprint and Nokia... Nokia didn't pay much attention to Sprint's technology, CDMA, or their network and Nokia phones didn't work well at all. Besides, anyone who has used a great number of phones no that the two worst OS on phones belong to Motorola and Nokia. They are exceptionally hard to use. I am talking of their basic phones, not the Communicator devices and the like. If you have used a Samsung phone or a Sanyo phone, they have phone OS's that are easy to use, quick and best of all feature rich while to the point. A phone is for making calls. That is all it is for and will never be much good at doing anything else.

The data networks..... wake up. I would love it to happen; but only because I love gadgets. The real hardware isn't out today to take advantage of these future high speed data networks. They are going to have to invent great hardware that can be used anywhere for long periods of time and that is not "ugly" or considered "un-cool" by the majority of USA users. I don't live in Europe, so what Europe does just has little affect on me. They are making some cool strides, but there is a long road to travel down.

Finally, do we really need to be this connected to the universe? What good does it do? That would be a very interesting thread.

Kemas

vetteguy

02-19-2002, 07:25 PM

Button/Menu. 100% sure. :) That's how they make one handed operation possible: you don't need to have the device in one hand, and a stylus in the other. All is done with the keys.

Taken from the Microsoft Mobile Devices website: "Easy dial with finger or stylus". So does that just mean that it's POSSIBLE, or will be built-in to these units? Also, with the hardware shown on that site, why do I get the feeling we're approaching the day of the $1000 cell phone?

marlof

02-19-2002, 07:27 PM

Taken from the Microsoft Mobile Devices website: "Easy dial with finger or stylus". So does that just mean that it's POSSIBLE, or will be built-in to these units? Also, with the hardware shown on that site, why do I get the feeling we're approaching the day of the $1000 cell phone?

Don't mix the Pocket PC 2002 Phone Edition info with the Smartphone 2002 info. The site you mention is Phone Edition: a regular Pocket PC ( with touchscreen ) with added phone and data capabilities. The Smartphone I spoke about has NO touchscreen. It's a one handed thing.

vetteguy

02-19-2002, 07:32 PM

spg

02-19-2002, 07:36 PM

JonnoB

02-19-2002, 07:38 PM

So what's the major difference? Hardware? (PDA with phone built in as opposed to phone with PPC2002 running on it)? I guess I've gotten lost in the shuffle of this already. Here's hoping when the time comes I can just point and say "that one". :)

Pocket PC 2002 phone edition is a Pocket PC with built-in phone capabilities. An example would be the HP Jornada 928.

A Smartphone 2002 is a cell phone with some built-in PDA capabilities as well as wireless internet.

Hope that helps you out.

Take a loot at the screenshots. The visual helps out the most in distinguishing the two platforms. I almost wish they were both the same OS, with just a different screen size and a few custom applications for input. Would be easier for developers.

Andy Sjostrom

02-19-2002, 10:46 PM

Smartphone 2002 and Pocket PC Phone Edition use the same operating system: Windows CE 3.0.

Different form factor, screen size and implementations of the core applications.

JonnoB

02-19-2002, 11:17 PM

spg

02-20-2002, 03:00 AM

Smartphone 2002 and Pocket PC Phone Edition use the same operating system: Windows CE 3.0.

Different form factor, screen size and implementations of the core applications.

Let me rephrase... the same implementation of the OS, with retargetable graphics and custom application and input options.

Yeah, sorta but it is a totally different interface. Not any similarity as far as input goes at all. I don't think there is anyway to make them close to the same for developers sake. You would have to add touch screen and all sorts of other stuff.

Jason Dunn

02-20-2002, 03:42 AM

My conclusion is that there is no comparison between this and the communicator ( www.twyn-y-berllan.com/n9210 - 'Nuff Said )

Exactly - there is NO comparison. Know why? :twisted:

One is a PHONE with some PDA characteristics.

The other is a big-ass PDA with a keyboard and a phone globbed onto the back.

I think the communicator is a very interesting device, and I'd love to see one in person, but it's nowhere near the Smartphone 2002 size and usage pattern. It's a completely different device that is obviously wonderful for people like you, but you can't compare it to a Smartphone that will sell for half the cost, no keyboard, much smaller screen, etc.

Jason Dunn

02-20-2002, 03:44 AM

Will Smartphone 2002 offer a touch screen inteface, or is it all button/menu input?

Button/menu - the concept of one-handed operating is VERY critical to the product. It's a cell phone first and foremost - trying to use a touch screen while driving/walking is a dangerous thing, while one-handed operation is much easier. 8)

Daniel

02-20-2002, 04:47 AM

The other is a big-ass PDA with a keyboard and a phone globbed onto the back.

he he he, you said it Jason. :lol:
If it wasn't such a brick I might be interested. There is no comparison between a phone and the 9210, they're just not the same kind of device.

If I was going to compare anything, it would be a Handheld PC and the 9210 (if you were going Nokia/MS comparisons), pop a Nokia PhoneCard 2.0 (ha, the irony) into the Jornada 720 (for example. were there any others?) and then make your comparisons.

daniel

James

02-20-2002, 05:06 AM

Button/menu - the concept of one-handed operating is VERY critical to the product. It's a cell phone first and foremost - trying to use a touch screen while driving/walking is a dangerous thing, while one-handed operation is much easier. 8)

Trying to use a cellphone while driving is a VERY dangerous thing...and soon to be illegal in more states than just NY.

Dave Conger

02-20-2002, 06:36 AM

Trying to use a cellphone while driving is a VERY dangerous thing...and soon to be illegal in more states than just NY.

Remember way back when they brought out the Auto PC? They made games for that think.

I don't know why anyone would think they could actually use the PDA part of a SmartPhone while driving. Same thing goes for your PDA...my iPAQ has a hard enough time with my handwriting when I am sitting still.

Kirk Stephens

02-20-2002, 08:00 AM

While I think these new breed of smart phones are very cool, I find it hard to see how one could exploit the full functionality of an OS on a phone's interface. Having to punch a number key 3 times to get to the letter you want is ridiculous. I think the nokia communicator 9210 has the right idea with their design. An actual keyboard or having a touchscreen is a necessity for these smart phones (in my opinion :P).

innersky

02-20-2002, 08:16 AM

An actual keyboard or having a touchscreen is a necessity for these smart phones (in my opinion :P).

A full text clip-on keyboard will be available for these phones... (at least for the Sendo)

JonnoB

02-20-2002, 08:22 AM

A full text clip-on keyboard will be available for these phones... (at least for the Sendo)

The HP already has a keyboard.. the same one that works on the 56x model will likely work on the 928

innersky

02-20-2002, 01:24 PM

A full text clip-on keyboard will be available for these phones... (at least for the Sendo)

The HP already has a keyboard.. the same one that works on the 56x model will likely work on the 928

:? Kirk was talking about Smartphone 2002, not Pocket PC Phone Edition.
(danm, those names are long)

JohnnyFlash

02-20-2002, 09:43 PM

The other is a big-*** PDA with a keyboard and a phone globbed onto the back.

:roll: Hehe! Interesting choice of words. Yes, very interesting. Not quite accurate, but interesting nonetheless.

pete

02-20-2002, 10:11 PM

The other is a big-*** PDA with a keyboard and a phone globbed onto the back.

:roll: Hehe! Interesting choice of words. Yes, very interesting. Not quite accurate, but interesting nonetheless.

Might I add that the Communicator is currently the best selling big-ass PDA+phone combo. :D

Let's put it this way: is the Communicator a brick if you can take it to a client meeting instead of a laptop? It's a business tool and definitely as small as it can be in terms of usability... therefore it doesn't compete with its size.

JohnnyFlash

02-21-2002, 02:04 AM

I know you guys think I'm being cantancerous (and maybe I am). It isn't that I think that the Nokia 9210 can do everything the PocketPC can. I admit, it can't. That game that was posted earlier this week, the 3D space one, I can't see that being done on my PDA, and where's SimCity? It has very limited RAM and no CF slot.

But, it does the job (Word, Spreadsheet, Project Planning, Contacts, E-Mail, FAX, SMS - things which some guys here treat as new features that only Micro$oft has thought of) and, in some areas, it does the job better than a PocketPC. In others, it doesn't.

But the reason I'm so underwhelmed with the Smartphone is that I've seen the competition. Nokia didn't cut down the 9210 in order to put it into the 7650. The flexibility of Symbian means that they don't have to design the phone around the OS! Just take a look here (http://www.allabouter6.com/smartphone/nokia7650/) and you'll see what I mean.

bbarker

02-21-2002, 02:33 AM

Not much said about the calendar application - is that because it is pants? Remember, Software Matters.Several of you have used the term "pants" in this manner. What does it mean? I've never heard of the term before.

Rafe

02-21-2002, 02:52 PM

The Nokia 9210 is the best 'smartphone' on the market at the moment. The thing is its not really a smartphone, it a Communicator, it is intended to be a mobile business tool, it is meant to be a PDA and then a phone. Most mobile execs will have this and then a seperate phone.

The Nokia 7650 will compete against Smartphone 2002 devices. It is a better phone and will be available shortly. here is a phone with extra 'smart' capabilities. It wil do well not just because its Symbian based (and at the moment this is a far superior OS to the MS offering both it functional and user terms and more importantly [for performance, stability, battery life, flexibility] the ways it is written), but also because it is Nokia who have a big share of the market, who have the distribution channels and who produce good looking phone. The 7650 certainly looks to be the sexiest 'smartphone'.

The flexibility of the Symbian OS is an important point - you design the phone and the oS will fit it. You dont have a fixed screen size, you can use which components you like. This is why manufacturers like, it will be less restrictive then MS SP 2002. This is perhaps best illustrated by the fact the 7650 is the first in a whole line of 7650 smartphones, this is in the imaging class, there'll probably be 2 or 3 more. The other manufactuers will also produce them. Sony Ericsson is close to release, as are Motorola and others.

Symbian will win (take the largest market share by a long way) at the end of the day because its a better product (although of course this is an opnion), but more importantly its got the backing of 80% of mobile phone manufacturers and it has products on stream now. It has three classes of OS designed for phone (not designed down from desktop to PPC to phone). The Smartphone (formerly known as Pearl) will compete with Smartphone 2002, the UIQ interface will compete with PPC phone Edition and the Communicator (9210) doesn;t really have any competition at all. Its a seperate category altogether.

If you dont understand some of the technical terms I've used (Symbain designs etc.) have a look at the website in my sig - it should clear things up as it represents one of the few Symbian reporting sites on the net.

Rafe

Thor Gunnarsson

02-25-2002, 05:20 PM

The Microsoft Smartphone site shows 'screenshots' of Rebound and Doom, sized down to make you believe they are running on Stinger. Aside from the control issues, I'm wondering about the memory and processors in these devices. The only thing I've read is that the smartphone from Sendo is slated to have a TI processor and 16 mb of memory.

Depspite any claims to the contrary, our game Rebound is indeed running on Smartphone 2002, at least it was on the phone we demoed it on at the 3GSM conference in Cannes last week :wink:

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