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Old 06-11-2010, 12:00 PM
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Default No Porn In The Windows Phone 7 Marketplace

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/06/windows-phone-7-marketplace-to-be-porn-free-zone.ars' target='_blank'>http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/ne...n-free-zone.ars</a><br /><br /></div><p><em>"Also published are the application certification requirements that applications must meet to be allowed in the Marketplace. Just as with the Windows Mobile Marketplace, no porn or sexually suggestive content is allowed. Microsoft is clearly seeking to avoid the controversy that Apple faced when it yanked porn from the store. Microsoft still hasn't committed to offering any alternative way of loading applications. Businesses wanting their own privately developed, privately deployed software will still have to go via Marketplace. Their programs will still be private, but as things stand, there won't be any mechanism for cutting out the middleman."</em></p><p>Sorry to dash your thoughts of Microsoft as the "cool dude that's down with dirty pictures" - They won't allow pornographic apps in the Windows Phone 7 marketplace. But do we really need that anyway? As many have said, most smartphones already have the best porn application out there - a web browser. So is this all just a bunch of smoke porn-loving journalists keep resurrecting with Win Phone, Apple, and others? I mean, how shocking is it that a major corporation wouldn't want offensive content displayed on it's service?</p>
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Old 06-11-2010, 01:36 PM
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The point is not if I wanted porno or not, the point is that I am the one who decide what I do with my device. If you prefer "Freedom to choose".
Regrettably MS is desperately trying to copy Apple in every details....
 
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Old 06-11-2010, 05:56 PM
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I think it is more of an issue of it being nightmarish for parents to control what is on their children's devices. Games for consoles and PC's are rated now and parents can easily control what they allow to run on the machines. Doing the same for mobile apps though would be a daunting task given how fast they proliferate.

I side with MS on this one - better safe than sorry. As an adult, if you need porn, you don't need an app store to get it.
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Old 06-11-2010, 06:27 PM
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I think it is more of an issue of it being nightmarish for parents to control what is on their children's devices. Games for consoles and PC's are rated now and parents can easily control what they allow to run on the machines. Doing the same for mobile apps though would be a daunting task given how fast they proliferate.

I side with MS on this one - better safe than sorry. As an adult, if you need porn, you don't need an app store to get it.
I do not need porn, I want my freedom of choice; very different.

Technically speaking MS could just block certain sections of the market depending by the age of the person signing in.

Finally what is "porn"? In the US be on a beach in topless would be; when I was a child I remember be on the beaches of the French Riviere in early '60 and nobody cared about topless.
 
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Old 06-11-2010, 06:44 PM
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I do not need porn, I want my freedom of choice; very different.

Technically speaking MS could just block certain sections of the market depending by the age of the person signing in.

Finally what is "porn"? In the US be on a beach in topless would be; when I was a child I remember be on the beaches of the French Riviere in early '60 and nobody cared about topless.
Shouldn't Microsoft have the 'freedom' to limit what you do with their phones? If you want 'freedom', use your discretion and buy another device that allows porn apps and don't buy a wp7 device. I don't really understand why people have this misguided 'freedom' mentality. You're privledged to use the devices, and just like on this website, there are rules you must abide to ie you can't have everything you want just from throwing around the word 'freedom'.
 
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Old 06-11-2010, 09:51 PM
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I do not need porn, I want my freedom of choice; very different.
You have the freedom to access anything that you want to on the internet. If being a creep is part of it, go for it.
 
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Old 06-12-2010, 03:23 AM
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The point is not if I wanted porno or not, the point is that I am the one who decide what I do with my device. If you prefer "Freedom to choose".
Regrettably MS is desperately trying to copy Apple in every details....
Well, I suppose I look at it this way. Yes, you did buy the device and should be able to do with it what you wish. However buying a device doesn't give you any right to demand the product be tailored to your desires. Let's use a different analogy: You want to buy a specific brand of watch - and none of those watches include a second-hand. If you buy one, do you have any right to demand the watchmaker let you add a second hand easily?

So yes, you could jack open the watch and add your own second-hand - just like I'm sure someone will find a way to put apps on a WP7 device that didn't get listed in the app store. It's Microsoft's product, and it's Microsoft's call on how they want it to be. If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to buy it (this is one of the few times I find myself sounding like Steve Jobs... and it's sorta scary!)

And besides, the browser will probably give you better porn access than any app would anyway, and most likely cheaper!
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Old 06-12-2010, 01:00 PM
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Which is exactly what I will do: Steve Jobs and now his epigons at MS will not have the "privilege" to see my money.
 
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Old 06-14-2010, 10:11 PM
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I'm forever amazed not so much at the big-brother censoring that Apple and now Microsoft are imposing but at the big-brother-knows-best mindset that so many of you (and by you, by extension I mean our society) are espousing. As with Fritzly, I could care less if porn is accessible on my phone, but I sure want to make that decision for myself or for my own family. Furthermore, I want to decide what kind of material is considered acceptable. Apple is banning cartoon boobs from Ulysses, political cartoons, apps with certain politically charged content, and other forms of expression as it deems fit. Keeping hard porn out of the hands of children is one thing. Social engineering by my effing phone company is a whole 'nother thing entirely. Give ME the tools to limit what I see and what my kids can see. DO NOT attempt to tell me what is right for me. Even when you're right, you'll be wrong.

I was already leaning (way) away from the WP7 platform. Now I'm running away entirely. Thank God for Google. MS I've been a big supporter and an MS developer for 20 years, but you're REALLY disappointing me. If you're going to copy your competition, don't do it blindly.

PS - Slightly unrelated, but how on earth does Apple expect the magazine publishing industry to "standardize" on the iPad when Apple is going to have final editorial power over their content. What a joke! I'm sorry, but this model fails so badly it is painful.
 
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Old 06-15-2010, 01:14 AM
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ptyork and others, why do you think your right to self censor trumps Microsoft's and Apple's rights to develop the platform they want to develop and include the content they want to include? I think you have it backwards. Your taxpayer money isn't funding them.

Do you boycott G, PG and PG-13 movies because there is no porn in them and you feel they are making content decisions for you?

Do you boycott broadcast TV because there is no porn in them and you feel they are making content decisions for you?

Do you boycott most news sites on the web because, as a rule, there is no porn in them and you feel they are making content decisions for you?

Do you boycott tech sites on the web because, as a rule, there is no porn in them and you feel they are making content decisions for you?

Or, do you just boycott Microsoft and Apple because you feel they are making content decisions for you?
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