10-27-2008, 11:00 PM
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Microsoft Thinks iPhone's Sales Figure are Cute
"Microsoft's Robbie Bach feigned an uninterested yawn at Apple's 6.9 million iPhones figure in an interview with BusinessWeek the other day. He wasn't particularly insulting of the product, but didn't think the number means too much in the long run. "Apple had a big launch of a new product, and they launched at scale in a lot of new countries with a lot of new [wireless] operators. This quarter, RIM is having its big launch, and at some point we'll have our big launch. We'll have to see where things normalize." While that statement is encouraging for the fact that it semi-implies that Windows Mobile 7 is supposed to be released at "some point," we're not sure we're picking up what Robbie is putting down -- 6.9 million of a single device seems to imply a bit more than "launch buzz." Things devolved quickly when Bach started spouting about how carriers want a balanced ecosystem. That may be true, but consumers are the ones that buy the phones, and if their RAZR buying habits are any indication, "ecosystem" isn't their top priority." 
Well if Robbie Bach should have learned anything by now Apple has a way of making launch buzz last an eternity. Every time an Apple product starts to fall out of the public consciousness, BAM! Another Apple event is just around the corner to put the Internet in Apple frenzy. I'm just baffled that after the suffering years of abuse via smear advertisements by the hands of Apple regarding Vista that they have still not learned to take Apple seriously. Feel as you may about the Apple iPhone but we can't ignore that it is pretty much printing money for Apple at the moment. The longer Microsoft stalls in releasing their new operating system the more speed and momentum iPhone sales will gain.
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10-27-2008, 11:32 PM
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I'd say his comments pretty much sum up why we haven't seen any innovation from Microsoft on this platform in the last several years. They have grown complacent and are ignoring the competition. Too bad for them - this one time evangelist has moved on. My daily driver is now the iPhone 3G and YES, I use it for business daily. Microsoft thinks they can bury their head in the sand and competition will just go away. Blackberry provides an easier to use email solution for those who really just want corporate email with their phone, and iPhone provides a superior internet/entertainment platform. Buy the time Microsoft realizes they have significant competition, they will no longer be relevant in the mobile world.
I know MS still maintains a large WM market share, but their lack of innovation is starting to, and will continue to catch up with them. It's not like the desktop space, where you can drive a competitor out and resell the same software over and over - It's obviously much easier for competitors to pop up in the mobile space.
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10-28-2008, 01:24 AM
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MS need to be really careful ... I have been a PPC/WM fan since the launch of the iPaq 3600 back in 2000 and had many varied MS devices. For the first time in 8 years I have a non- WM device - an iPhone3G - and with the launch of Google Earth for iPhone (which is truly incredible) the pressure is well and truly on MS to pull out their finger and start innovating rather than sticking out their tongues at the up and coming competition.
The iPod has been the dominant MP3 for some time - and in the iPhone - only in its 2nd generation already has become a creditable device that is going to be taking away market share - not just for domestic users - but with Exchange support (and it works really well from my point of view) the business market isn't safe.
It wont be long before the next iPhone version comes out - WM7 needs to make a very big leap forward (and not just a tweak). It is clear to me that there is a steadily growing current of dissatisfaction in the WM camp (evident here and on 4WinMobile). Another sea change may well be in the offing! Hold onto your hats!
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10-28-2008, 04:47 AM
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Even though I have currently moved on to the Google Android platform, I would very much love to see something new and innovating from Microsoft. I would love to be able to move back to a Windows Mobile device and just not be incredibly bored with it.
Sure I cannot do everything on the G1 that I could do on Windows Mobile, but it is so downright easy to use and fun to look at and everything is designed in a finger friendly non-cluttered layout, that I am willing to make exceptions and go without some of the features I really love like smartdialing.
T-Mobile is even already pushing OTA updates out to Android users not even a week after the phone has been released. Even though we have had Windows Update on our devices for years, when was the last time it was ever used?
Its areas like these where soon people will start moving over to the prettier and easier to use platform because its just more exciting and fun to use.
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10-28-2008, 03:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocco Augusto
T-Mobile is even already pushing OTA updates out to Android users not even a week after the phone has been released. Even though we have had Windows Update on our devices for years, when was the last time it was ever used?
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When was the first time it was used?
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10-28-2008, 04:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kacey Green
When was the first time it was used?
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lol - burn!
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10-28-2008, 04:01 PM
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Oracle
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocco Augusto
T-Mobile is even already pushing OTA updates out to Android users not even a week after the phone has been released. Even though we have had Windows Update on our devices for years, when was the last time it was ever used?
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I wonder how frequent those updates will be, though, once there are more devices to support. It's easy now, because Android has to run reliably on exactly one hardware configuration. I hope they can maintain the level of support (and open-source will certainly help that), but it's only going to get harder over time.
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10-28-2008, 06:05 PM
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I know many will disagree, but I truly believe it's just a matter of time before WM is no more. I've seen it before, just when you shrug off your competition the end comes. WM has never been a priority with MS and never will be.
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10-28-2008, 09:57 PM
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Swami
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Microsoft Is Persistent
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Originally Posted by stevew
I know many will disagree, but I truly believe it's just a matter of time before WM is no more.
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Is that your own conclusion, or did you read Cringely's Windows Mobile is dead article? That article had a few holes, I think (namely, I don't buy the 85-10-5 split).
What was the last market that Microsoft entered where they either gave up and let their products die?
Steve
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10-28-2008, 10:13 PM
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Pontificator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pony99CA
What was the last market that Microsoft entered where they either gave up and let their products die?
Steve
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Well, they've never been as big in any market as WM and let it die, but it's not without precedent. Remember the old handheld PC's running Windows CE? How about "Smart Displays", those thin clients that we were going to use to surf from anywhere in our homes? I'm sure you remember "Plays for Sure", their initiative to compete with the iPod, which is probably the most relevant here. Similar eco-systems and issues in combining MS Software with 3rd Party hardware that never seemed to compete well with the closed Apple environment. I also think dabbled in speakers, game controllers, etc. and have since opted out.
They also have been in and out of the local search business - remember when they owned "CitySearch", but sold it? Now we have Live or Local Search to replace it.
I'm not necessarily predicting the demise of WM, but I don't think you can just say, it's Microsoft so they won't give up.
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