02-19-2008, 02:00 PM
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Contributing Editor Emeritus
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AT&T Updates ROM On Tilt
http://www.america.htc.com/support/tilt/software-downloads.html
AT&T has released a full ROM update for the Tilt. Enhancements include:
� Enhanced Bluetooth performance.
� Enables DTMF tones for the slide-out QWERTY keyboard.
� Improves overall device performance and stability.
� Includes Microsoft Adaptation Kit Update (AKU) 0.4.4.
I haven't checked yet to see of HTC did the same for the TyTN II yet, which is the same device. They actually allow you to restore data after the upgrade from your pre-update data, but I am highly suspicious of this, as that would also replace registry keys that may have a different meaning now with newer drivers.
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02-19-2008, 05:43 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Quesiton
If this is an update then why is the Rom Date: 08/25/2007??? I got my Tilt about 2 months ago and it came with that ROM on it. Is there another update or is this just an update for the original Tilt people?
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02-19-2008, 06:23 PM
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Philosopher
Join Date: Sep 2006
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I know its confusing, but that picture is from the old / initial ROM. What they are saying is, if you have those version #'s, you do NOT have the newest version, and therefore could upgrade.
The new ROM version date is actually 1/17/08, and its seems to be a faster stabler ROM....worth the update IMHO (so far....just updated last night).
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02-19-2008, 06:53 PM
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Contributing Editor Emeritus
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Re: Quesiton
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Originally Posted by LordFuzzy
If this is an update then why is the Rom Date: 08/25/2007??? I got my Tilt about 2 months ago and it came with that ROM on it. Is there another update or is this just an update for the original Tilt people?
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As BrainChris said, that pic is wrong. The text at the top says the ROM update is 1.62.502.0, and the pic shown hasn 1.57.502.2.
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02-19-2008, 07:12 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Thanks
Thats what i get for not reading the whole thing. In the past they posted the new picture not the old one for comparison. Thanks everyone. Going to try the new update tonight.
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02-19-2008, 08:03 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Re: Quesiton
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Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
As BrainChris said, that pic is wrong. The text at the top says the ROM update is 1.62.502.0, and the pic shown hasn 1.57.502.2.
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I'm not sure the pic is "wrong". My take when I read it was that if you have the ROM pictured, you should upgrade.
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02-19-2008, 08:22 PM
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Pontificator
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Re: AT&T Updates ROM On Tilt
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Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
They actually allow you to restore data after the upgrade from your pre-update data, but I am highly suspicious of this, as that would also replace registry keys that may have a different meaning now with newer drivers.
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Any reason why you think they wouldn't have thought of that?
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02-19-2008, 08:52 PM
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Sage
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Re: AT&T Updates ROM On Tilt
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Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
They actually allow you to restore data after the upgrade from your pre-update data, but I am highly suspicious of this, as that would also replace registry keys that may have a different meaning now with newer drivers.
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Actually, this whole thing irritates me. Back in the day, PDAs used a type of memory that required a hard reset to update as it had to be flashed in whole. But in the last couple of years, most began using a strataflash memory that could be written to in parts without requiring a full reset. But to code that sort of update requires a little more work and vendors are too lazy and/or cheap to do it. So they just flash all the memory blocks at once, forcing users to hard reset, even for a minor upgrade.
It takes me a day to redo my PPC and get it up to my standards. So I (once again) have to pass on an upgrade because, well, because I'm too lazy to reinstall everything  But the point is, the whole issue of restoring a backup from one ROM to another (which never works by the way) wouldn't be an issue if they would just program the update in the proper manner.
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02-19-2008, 09:05 PM
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Philosopher
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Re: AT&T Updates ROM On Tilt
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Originally Posted by DaleReeck
Actually, this whole thing irritates me. Back in the day, PDAs used a type of memory that required a hard reset to update as it had to be flashed in whole. But in the last couple of years, most began using a strataflash memory that could be written to in parts without requiring a full reset. But to code that sort of update requires a little more work and vendors are too lazy and/or cheap to do it. So they just flash all the memory blocks at once, forcing users to hard reset, even for a minor upgrade.
It takes me a day to redo my PPC and get it up to my standards. So I (once again) have to pass on an upgrade because, well, because I'm too lazy to reinstall everything But the point is, the whole issue of restoring a backup from one ROM to another (which never works by the way) wouldn't be an issue if they would just program the update in the proper manner. |
While I agree with you that they should preform their updates via the methos you refer to (XIP, execture in place, I believe), more importantly, I'm just happy they released an update at all! Having owned the 8125 and the 8525 before the Tilt, the Tilt's initial ROM (the ROM you're currently using and have no plans to upgrade from) was the buggiest of all of them....WAY below HTC's usual standards.
It also takes me at least one day (if not longer) to reinstall and reconfigure everything, but that's better IMHO than tolerating a $300 bug factory.
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02-19-2008, 11:10 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: May 2006
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rom updates into flash
I agree that a cleaner upgrade path should exist, but given the current technology and phone maker/carrier's laziness (meaning preference for profitability right?) factor, entire new roms requiring hard reset without restore as an option seem really annoying but quite acceptable to get bug free function for me. Another thought I had was that when they bug fix here and there, even if the fixes are minor, they might touch enough regions of the rom that xip'ing one area only is useless to get all the fixes in. The solution there is probably to issue fixes more often, as they are made, and not in one huge load--perhaps via the "Windows Update" thing that doesn't seem to be currently used and without hard reset required.
I'll deal with rom updates as they are because often the only alternative is no update at all or just buying new hardware.
What I'm most bothered with is hardware that can run newer versions of the OS but getting it isn't an option, even if one is willing to pay a licensing fee. Thinking about PCs I'm able to get Vista even if I know certain features will behave less than ideal on my hardware (and I can know that upfront using their advisor software)--I want the ppc OS designed such that this would be possible. Maybe someday...
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