01-22-2008, 12:00 PM
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Sony To Make Protocol To Compete With Bluetooth
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080107-sonys-transferjet-to-take-on-bluetooth.html
"Never one to settle for an open standard when the opportunity to push a proprietary alternative presents itself, Sony has announced that it will wade into the next-generation short-range interconnect wars with a proprietary new wireless spec called "TransferJet." Sony's proposed TransferJet spec has a physical peak transmission rate of 560Mbps and would appear to compete directly with short- and medium-range ultrawideband-based offerings like wireless USB (W-USB) and the next generation of Bluetooth technology. But in spite of any similarities to either W-USB or Bluetooth 3.0, both of which are based on the same WiMedia radio technology and promise transfer speeds in the 480Mbps range, Sony's TransferJet has some distinguishing characteristics that set it apart from the pack."
That's awesome. All those users with Sony devices can talk to each other and swap Memory Sticks, isolating themselves from the rest of the portable electronic universe. Someone needs to hit Sony with a clue-stick. :roll:
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01-22-2008, 02:19 PM
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Sage
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You forgot about swapping UMD disks!:lol:
And Blu-Ray! Oh, snap, Blu-Ray's winning. Oh well. :cry:
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01-22-2008, 03:23 PM
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Magi
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I predict exactly four people will adopt this "standard"
I hate Sony. They even managed to break everything they did RIGHT with the PS2 when they introduced the PS3...no more backwards compatibility, and proprietory blu ray technology, YUCK! I'll be getting a wii instead, as soon as I can find one 
I don't see how anyone can say blu-ray is "winning". Didn't they just lose an exclusive deal they had? I haven't gone HD yet so I'm not following it really closely, but I'm pretty sure the race is still going on. I'm confident the open standard is going to win out in the end, might just take a while.
I just don't understand how this makes good business sense, to keep trying the same crap, after as many times it's already failed. I wouldn't even count memory stick as a success, though it's as close as they've gotten, since people do use it. But Beta, Minidisc, etc? Come on, learn from your mistakes already!
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01-22-2008, 03:23 PM
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Pupil
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And Blu-Ray! Oh, snap, Blu-Ray's winning. Oh well.
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Come on, let's be fair. They were still owed by the media gods for that little Beta fiasco 
The best part about Sony doing this all the time is that you keep getting opportunities to give people that 'Oh, you bought a Sony. Guess you didn't know any better' look. Man I love giving that look :devilboy:
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01-22-2008, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PetiteFlower
I predict exactly four people will adopt this "standard"
I don't see how anyone can say blu-ray is "winning". Didn't they just lose an exclusive deal they had? I haven't gone HD yet so I'm not following it really closely, but I'm pretty sure the race is still going on. I'm confident the open standard is going to win out in the end, might just take a while.
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Unless I missed something else, it was HD-DVD that just lost the exclusivity deal. That's why BR is "winning."
I still buy Sony audio and video equipment when it's best-in-class, but I won't touch a Sony-related computing device. In fact, my MIL needed help with her lappy a while back. Once I found out it was a VAIO, she was on her own. :devilboy:
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01-22-2008, 04:37 PM
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Sonys innovations are great, the memory sticks are smaller, this is faster but the problem is they dont open them up. They think by having something which is better than the rest is enough to get people to buy into the idea. But people dont want to pay more, they dont want to be limited to one make of device.
History has continued to prove that open is the way forward, its what the consumer and developers want.
They keep trying to do this, they want to find the next CD (the format which nets Philips $0.01 for every disk sold and makes them billions).
Sony, stope wasting your money on re-developing the wheel. Spend it on making better use of whats already on offer. Sure having a sony phone with some format you have to buy another sony phone to use it sounds great but lets be honest. It hasnt influenced my freinds purchase. they get what they want. Then mock me for buying some lame custom format.
Grrrr, you guys make me mad!
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01-22-2008, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Underwater Mike
I still buy Sony audio and video equipment when it's best-in-class, but I won't touch a Sony-related computing device.
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Exactly. I hate all their proprietary standards, but they do produce some nice electronics. e.g. I own a Sony HDTV from 2004. At the time I bought it, it's dual picture handling was just loads better than anything else in its price range (and still today is quite impressive). It's got a memory stick slot I've never used, but it's a great TV.
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01-22-2008, 06:13 PM
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Another reason never to buy a Sony PC...as if I needed one. As one who was stuck with a 128 Mb memory stick while CF & SD cards hit the Gb range, I won't be going down that road again anytime soon. Twice the price and twice as long (at least) to get the same functionality. No thanks.
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01-23-2008, 04:17 AM
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That's a shame. IMHO Sony does some of the nicest designs. They don't really need to try and lock folks in with proprietary standards, (or clandestined root kits).
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01-23-2008, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dannyoneill
Sonys innovations are great, the memory sticks are smaller, this is faster but the problem is they dont open them up.
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Smaller than what? I have a friend that just got a Sony camera and he was talking about the size of the memory stick and how small it was. I showed him my 8GB micro-SD card and that put an end to that conversation real quick. :wink:
Plus, just how many memory stick cards are there. Memory Stick, Memory stick Duo, Memory Stick Pro, Magic Gate, Memory Stick Pro-HG, purple cards, white cards, blah blah blah. Who can keep up with all of that? Even the Memory Stick Micro, which I've never seen anyone actually own, is not as small as a micro-SD.
As for speed, not sure. I've never had a problem with taking pictures or watching video with my cards. I guess if we were talking solid state drives you might run databases off of, speed would be an issue, but personally, my cards (CF, MMC, SD, etc) have never caused problems because of speed issues. I suppose professoinal photographers with high speed cameras care, but most of them are using CF anyway, even in Sony cameras.
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