09-28-2007, 04:00 PM
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iPaq 912 Business Messenger In The Flesh
"Earlier this month, HP loosed details on its iPAQ 900 series of PDA phones, and for those itching for a closer look at this handheld, AVing has the goods. As expected, this sucka looks a tad large when compared to one's palm, but we're sure it'll still warm the hearts of some. Without further ado, head on past the break for a few more snapshots."
While its not exactly clear what the providence of the photos are (the write-up in AVING seems to imply it was from the original launch earlier this month), I'm sure no one will object to more real-life photos of the device! I'm a bit dubious about the retail price quoted - $599 for the Asia Pacific region makes the 912 very competitive at its spec level. I'm guessing $699 is closer to the mark, though this is more a factor of the declining value of the US dollar more than anything else. In any case, enjoy the pics!
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09-28-2007, 07:38 PM
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I was giving some thought to the iPaq 6945, but his one looks interesting. Plus, HP is not likely to offer a WM6 upgrade for the 69xx line; at least, not that I could find.
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Current devices: iPhone 3G. Previous devices: Samsung Epix and 1st gen 32GB iPod Touch BlackJack II, iPaq 6945, iPaq hx4705, Dell Axim x30 high, iPaq 3765.
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09-28-2007, 08:22 PM
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Pupil
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I just don't get it, $599 or $699 and no public outcry about the price but the iPhone first came out at $599 and everyone was screaming about the high price.
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09-28-2007, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AtTheCross
I just don't get it, $599 or $699 and no public outcry about the price but the iPhone first came out at $599 and everyone was screaming about the high price.
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Yes, especially as both devices have 3G, GPS, Exchange integration, 3 Megapixel camera and 3rd party apps! They are obviously exactly the same value!
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09-28-2007, 09:57 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Originally Posted by AtTheCross
I just don't get it, $599 or $699 and no public outcry about the price but the iPhone first came out at $599 and everyone was screaming about the high price.
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The iPhone was sold at at&t with no discounts for new 2 year commitment pricing, the HP prices you see are probably a unbranded pricing, when or if at&t decides to release it they will have a 2 year discounted commitment pricing.
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09-28-2007, 10:07 PM
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Pupil
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treo 750 $399.99 - At&T
Blackberry $349.99 - AT&T
Motorola Q Black 329.99 - Verizon
XV6700 $399.99 - Verizon
These are also the 2yr contract prices for the hardware, these are 'mature' products, when they first came out they were a lot more.
Not trying to start an aurgument or anything, I don't own an iPhone but it just seems strange that there was so much press about how much the iPhone was. $699 for the HP912 seems really high, but no public outcry
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09-29-2007, 03:59 AM
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Pupil
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by AtTheCross
treo 750 $399.99 - At&T
Blackberry $349.99 - AT&T
Motorola Q Black 329.99 - Verizon
XV6700 $399.99 - Verizon
These are also the 2yr contract prices for the hardware, these are 'mature' products, when they first came out they were a lot more.
Not trying to start an aurgument or anything, I don't own an iPhone but it just seems strange that there was so much press about how much the iPhone was. $699 for the HP912 seems really high, but no public outcry
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Many of us on this site have been paying up to and above $1000 for our mobile devices for several years now, in-part because of their superior feature set. Potential iPhone customers, on the other hand, who are used to purchasing moto razors' and the like, will of course make a stink about the $600 price tag.
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09-29-2007, 10:55 AM
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Philosopher
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Originally Posted by AtTheCross
I just don't get it, $599 or $699 and no public outcry about the price but the iPhone first came out at $599 and everyone was screaming about the high price.
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You can't compare Apple Inc. and oranges. Inspite of glorified OS, iPhone is no more than you regular dumb phone/music palyer. That's what Steve Jobs and Co want it to be, at least for now. It would be better to compare to Motorola Rokr or SE W960i or something along these lines. WM devices are powerful versatile tools for business, intertainment, travel and many other uses, including paperweights :wink: They are customizable with 3rd party soft, have access to MS Exchange, and other push mail services. Files can be stored on a flash memorey card, so it gives you vertualy unlimited storage (as many SD cards as you can afford). and much much more. So to compare WM devices would be more appropriate to something like SE P1i running very good stable and versitile Symbian OS. Here you can show cons and pros as you have what to compare.
As for new HP device, I think $599 is a goode price, as it seems to be an afford to put all the previos mishaps (s.a. Ipaq 6315) behind and to win back business customer with impressive spec's, but still, needs to work on design.
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09-29-2007, 12:22 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Nov 2004
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True, most potential iPhone customers only compared it to subsidized phones. Don't forget, Windows Mobile users are also used to being able to replace their own batteries. How many of us have a #6 torx driver from the days when batteries were internal? I had to replace a switchboard in my old 3765.
I have heard reports that the iPhone will work on Exchange, but obviously this is not a native function and requires some skill to setup. Computerworld once ran a commentary piece recommending IT departments start learning how to setup and maintain IMAP mail for iPhone users.
The one thing that I think falls in Apple INC.'s favor is that they manufacture products for consumers. I do get tired of hearing about MS's "business customers" when told about functionality that we can't have, like wi-fi ActiveSync after WM2003SE/ActiveSuck 3.8.
I love your comment, virain. It makes me want to start Orange INC. and manufacture Windows Mobile devices just to provide the market with the cliche "You can't compare Apple INC to Orange INC."
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Current devices: iPhone 3G. Previous devices: Samsung Epix and 1st gen 32GB iPod Touch BlackJack II, iPaq 6945, iPaq hx4705, Dell Axim x30 high, iPaq 3765.
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09-29-2007, 04:29 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Originally Posted by emuelle1
True, most potential iPhone customers only compared it to subsidized phones. Don't forget, Windows Mobile users are also used to being able to replace their own batteries. How many of us have a #6 torx driver from the days when batteries were internal? I had to replace a switchboard in my old 3765.
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In all fairness though, having an unlocked iPhone right now, I don't have a need to swap batteries on it, it runs with quite constant browsing (and constant EDGE on as it does) a full day, unlike the WM devices which I have had when you "force" it to stay connected with say Skype you're fortunate if you can get anything over 3 hours, don't get me wrong I am most likely going to sell the iPhone mainly because my wife (I have my Sidekick and OQO 02 with 3G WWAN) doesn't like it as much as the Treo 750 she had uptill now, she likes the "precision" of the stylus interaciton.
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Originally Posted by emuelle1
I have heard reports that the iPhone will work on Exchange, but obviously this is not a native function and requires some skill to setup. Computerworld once ran a commentary piece recommending IT departments start learning how to setup and maintain IMAP mail for iPhone users.
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Well the .mac emails are in fact IMAP and you get 10GB (yes I recently become a Apple Mac Pro owner...) and it works just great with the iPhone, and you can set it up to pull in emails from other servers including IMAP so...
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Originally Posted by emuelle1
The one thing that I think falls in Apple INC.'s favor is that they manufacture products for consumers. I do get tired of hearing about MS's "business customers" when told about functionality that we can't have, like wi-fi ActiveSync after WM2003SE/ActiveSuck 3.8.
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The firmware update to the iPhone that came this past week (thursday) enables iTunes over wifi, but since it also disables the unlock, I haven't tried it yet.
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Originally Posted by emuelle1
I love your comment, virain. It makes me want to start Orange INC. and manufacture Windows Mobile devices just to provide the market with the cliche "You can't compare Apple INC to Orange INC."
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Sorry I think you might be a little late 
http://www.orange.com/english/home.php
I believe they were one of the operators standing in line to become the iPhone exclusive distributor in the UK? It went to O2 though..
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