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Old 10-19-2006, 09:00 PM
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"The computer industry is still working on the paperless office, but new short-range wireless technologies on tap for next year could at last bring about the cable-free desktop. The PC and consumer electronics industries have been talking up Certified Wireless USB (Universal Serial Bus) links as a replacement for those tried-and-true USB cables connecting the PC to everything from iPods to keyboards. Delays, unfortunately, have plagued more than a few companies trying to make this a reality. By year's end, products that rid the desktop of tangled wires should finally start hitting the market."

Finally, a short range wireless technology, one that hopefully is easy to use and works reliably, to replace those aging and slow IR ports.
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Old 10-19-2006, 10:51 PM
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Just what we need. Another wireless specification. Whats wrong with bluetooth (besides the crappy HTC radios)?
 
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Old 10-19-2006, 11:28 PM
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Just what we need. Another wireless specification. Whats wrong with bluetooth (besides the crappy HTC radios)?
the crappy Jabra radios, the crappy Dell radios, the crappy ipaq radios, and the other crappy radios. then there are the crappy profiles, the crappy software, the crappy experience, and the rest of the crapacious crappy crap.
 
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Old 10-20-2006, 12:11 AM
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the crappy Jabra radios, the crappy Dell radios, the crappy ipaq radios, and the other crappy radios. then there are the crappy profiles, the crappy software, the crappy experience, and the rest of the crapacious crappy crap.
Although Ed and I disagree on a couple of areas, I have to agree here that the Bluetooth experience (which was supposed to be the 'cable replacement') is far from easy or reliable. And from my perspective, too darn complicated.
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Old 10-20-2006, 04:12 AM
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Just what we need. Another wireless specification. Whats wrong with bluetooth (besides the crappy HTC radios)?
the crappy Jabra radios, the crappy Dell radios, the crappy ipaq radios, and the other crappy radios. then there are the crappy profiles, the crappy software, the crappy experience, and the rest of the crapacious crappy crap.
And once the Wireless USB standard is up and running, and various hardware manufacturers implement it badly, or only in part etc. - you can bet that we'll once more see the standard being blamed for the crappy implementation of it. I'm looking forward to the 'Wireless USB is dead' graphics even now...

Meanwhile - my HTC built Pocket Loox, wireless headset, HP printer, Sony Ericsson mobile and FSC laptop (with Toshiba provided radio) all happily communicate (each haveing been set up to communicate with all the others via a simple two step process that took seconds) just fine every single day. Funny that. :lol:
 
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Old 10-20-2006, 04:23 AM
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wouldn't it be easier to just rename bluetooth to wireless usb. LOL
 
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Old 10-20-2006, 04:52 AM
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Just what we need. Another wireless specification. Whats wrong with bluetooth (besides the crappy HTC radios)?
Absolutely! I am happy with bluetooth - it works well for me. Another wireless protocol just isn't needed and will probably interfere with all the other operating in and around 2.4Ghz. :roll: Manufacturers need to sort out their existing implementations first.
 
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Old 10-20-2006, 04:55 AM
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Manufacturers need to sort out their existing implementations first.
Exactly. The point of having a standard is not so that each company can come out with its own implementation of the concept in question.
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Old 10-20-2006, 05:01 AM
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Meanwhile - my HTC built Pocket Loox, wireless headset, HP printer, Sony Ericsson mobile and FSC laptop (with Toshiba provided radio) all happily communicate (each haveing been set up to communicate with all the others via a simple two step process that took seconds) just fine every single day. Funny that. :lol:
Unfortunately, not all of us have the same set of devices. I've had my share of weirdnesses, although part of it (perhaps a large part of it) is Microsoft's stacks to blame -- my Powerbook's Bluetooth is generally solid. My Pocket PCs and Bluetooth ActiveSync, though, is another adventure entirely.

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Old 10-20-2006, 05:23 AM
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Meanwhile - my HTC built Pocket Loox, wireless headset, HP printer, Sony Ericsson mobile and FSC laptop (with Toshiba provided radio) all happily communicate (each haveing been set up to communicate with all the others via a simple two step process that took seconds) just fine every single day. Funny that. :lol:
Unfortunately, not all of us have the same set of devices. I've had my share of weirdnesses, although part of it (perhaps a large part of it) is Microsoft's stacks to blame -- my Powerbook's Bluetooth is generally solid. My Pocket PCs and Bluetooth ActiveSync, though, is another adventure entirely.

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If the Bluetooth SIG have fallen down it is, perhaps, in not enforcing standardisation strongly enough. MS could have helped by working on BT earlier and making a decent implementation. Thing is - this will happen with any other new wirefree standard.

As things stand - it is literally years since I last had a real BT issue. Even Nokia phones behave now. The MS stack on PPCs seems to be a backwards step - but who do we point the finger at - BT or MS?

There is nothing wrong with BT that can't be put right by manufacturers. The standard itself works beautifully - and is in no need of replacing. Sadly Ed, rather naively, blames the standard and holds out hope that YABS (yet another bloody standard) will be the answer. Of course it won't.
 
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