Windows Phone Thoughts - Daily News, Views, Rants and Raves

Check out the hottest Windows Mobile devices at our Expansys store!


Digital Home Thoughts

Loading feed...

Laptop Thoughts

Loading feed...

Android Thoughts

Loading feed...




Go Back   Thoughts Media Forums > WINDOWS PHONE THOUGHTS > Windows Phone Software

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-20-2006, 02:00 PM
Ekkie Tepsupornchai
Magi
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,386
Default Sniper for Pocket PC for Collaboration with Other Devices via Bluetooth

http://www.gadgetapps.net/

"Sniper is a MoSoSo (Mobile Social Software) application designed to operate using BlueTooth. Using Sniper you can send/receive and reply to text messages from other BlueTooth equipped phones (including non Windows Mobile devices such as Nokias and Sony-Ericssons)... Sniper will also allow you to transfer files between devices as well as messages... Sniper also includes a Bluejacking feature which means you can send files or messages to all devices within range at the same time. A useful feature for sending out Business cards at meetings!"



That loading page makes Sniper look like an arcade shoot'em-up, but Sniper is actually a Bluetooth driven application allowing you to send and receive messages via Bluetooth with other Bluetooth-enabled devices (including Nokia and SonyEricsson smartphones) that are within range. I'm not sure how welcome the Bluejacking feature will be though (allows for broadcasted messages to all discoverable Bluetooth-devices in the area). Anyway, if you're interested, trial download is available via the provided link and you can register the software for $7.95.
 
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-20-2006, 04:46 PM
sweb3028
Pupil
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 27

uhhh ..... where's the link :?
 
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-20-2006, 06:02 PM
j.moghisi
Neophyte
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 8

look at the photo a little bit more carefully

http://www.gadgetapps.net/ if you couldn't find it (no offence)

cya
 
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-20-2006, 08:36 PM
Menneisyys
5000+ Posts? I Should OWN This Site!
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 5,067

Have been testing this stuff for quite some time. It, however, seems I'll only be able to post a review & comparison tomorrow (I've had a very busy day and, especially now, after swimming, am very tired). Stay tuned
 
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-21-2006, 01:40 AM
jlp
Pontificator
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,079

Does this version at last support the best PPC aka Pocket Loox 720? 8)
 
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-21-2006, 03:11 AM
RogueSpear
Ponderer
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 86

I don't spend a ton of time reading the forums here, so please forgive me if this is one millionth time it's been said.. but there sure don't seem to be too many pro bono software developers in the Windows Mobile field. I realize that $7.95 isn't all that much, but this is one of those utilities where you would want as many people as possible to be using it. Even if it were free, I can't imagine running into too many others while out and about that you'd connect to with this.
 
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-21-2006, 07:15 AM
Menneisyys
5000+ Posts? I Should OWN This Site!
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 5,067

Quote:
Originally Posted by jlp
Does this version at last support the best PPC aka Pocket Loox 720? 8)
Nope, it's only compatible with the MS BT stack.
 
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-21-2006, 07:21 AM
Menneisyys
5000+ Posts? I Should OWN This Site!
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 5,067

Quote:
Originally Posted by RogueSpear
I don't spend a ton of time reading the forums here, so please forgive me if this is one millionth time it's been said.. but there sure don't seem to be too many pro bono software developers in the Windows Mobile field. I realize that $7.95 isn't all that much, but this is one of those utilities where you would want as many people as possible to be using it. Even if it were free, I can't imagine running into too many others while out and about that you'd connect to with this.
Well, there has always been a great demand for personal messaging / file transfer solutions. Imagine a boring meeting where you can send quick messages on your PDA to a friend next to you, without the others knowing this
 
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-21-2006, 08:46 PM
Menneisyys
5000+ Posts? I Should OWN This Site!
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 5,067

Here's my review:

REVIEW: Latest, just-released version of Bluetooth chatter / Bluejacking app Sniper

Ever wanted to use the Bluetooth capabilities of your Pocket PC for local (text) messaging and file transfer, including local broadcasting? Take a look at Sniper, which is a comparatively new, constantly updated native Bluetooth messenger utility.

Unfortunately, there are very few local Bluetooth-based applications on the Pocket PC platform. As has pointed out in my article on Microsoft (MS) Portrait, the only really usable, Bluetooth-capable, internet-less text messaging / file transfer application, Portrait isn�t able to work over the Microsoft Bluetooth stack, only over real TCP/IP networks (including BT PAN and Wi-Fi P2P), which the Microsoft Bluetooth stack doesn't support because it lacks support for the Bluetooth Personal Area Network (PAN).

The same stands for the very similar but already abandoned Gphone . Finally, the other two, similar applications, ProximityMail and Bluetooth Chat, are no longer supported and have never really worked. (Note that I elaborate on the latter two apps and, particularly, the current, similar project of the developer of the former in the Appendix at the end of this article.)

At last: native Microsoft Bluetooth stack messaging solution; on the other hand, some compatibility problems

The new application is definitely good in that it supports the Microsoft Bluetooth stack, as opposed to Microsoft Portrait. If you have a device with the Microsoft Bluetooth stack, you�ll certainly welcome the new application � at last, a local native Bluetooth messaging solution that doesn�t require Wi-Fi peer-to-peer networks or an active Internet connection.



Unfortunately, it has some severe problems. First, while the homepage of the application advertises the app as PPC2k2+-compliant, it doesn�t seem to work with pre-WM5 Windows Mobile operating systems. I�ve tested all the available versions with both Pocket PC 2002, WM2003 and WM2003SE. I've made some example screenshots (see this and this) to show you it doesn't work: as can be seen, the installer can�t even install the WM5-only CAB files.

Furthermore, it�s incompatible with Widcomm/Broadcom Bluetooth stack-based devices like all HP iPAQ Pocket PC's (an example screenshot of it refusing running on the hx4700 is here), the Fujitsu-Siemens T800 series, the Acer n series and, of course, the Widcomm-hacked, WM5-based Dell Axim x50(v)/x51(v)'s. This is a very bad problem: developers of Bluetooth applications should at last notice that, as has already been pointed out in my articles (example here), Broadcom has in the meantime made its WinCE SDK freely available.

Available versions and differences between them; Bluejacking support in the trial version

There are two versions worth mentioning; first, of course, the latest one, 1.2.368, available here.

Bluejacking (see this article for a complete description), one of the most important and innovative (no other Pocket PC application is capable of this) feature of the application, is completely disabled in the latest, above-linked version. Older versions (for example, version 1.1.237 available here at ClickApps), however, still support this functionality in the demo, except mass-sending more than one file at a time. That is, if you want to give this functionality a try in the demo version (I certainly recommend it), get the older version.

Some examples of it in action

A Pocket PC device discovering two other Pocket PC�s.

Compared to MS Portrait or any other TCP/IP-based chatter application (including IRC clients), its chat feature is a bit more complicated to use. This is how it happens in practice: Sending a message: step 1, step 2. On the receiving end, you get it (note that if you see it this way, it means you�ve forgotten to disable the auto-receive of incoming beam) and save it. If you answer Yes, you�ll be taken to the messages; it's only then that you'll be able to read it. There, you can, for example, reply to the sender.

Examples of file transfer (sending files) 1, 2 3 (sending multiple files like this doesn�t work in the demo). At the receiving end, they�re saved in the pre-set save directory.

An example of bluejacking.

Verdict

If you want local chatting with other Microsoft BT stack-based Pocket PC's or non-Windows Mobile Bluetooth phones, give it a try. If you can�t use a Wi-Fi peer-to-peer connection (or full Internet connectivity) between your WM5 Microsoft BT stack-based devices, give it a try. If you want to do some bluejacking, give it a try. Otherwise, particularly if you have a pre-WM5 or Widcomm/Broadcom-based device, stick with the free MS Portrait.

Appendix: What about ProximityMail and Bluetooth Chat?

Unfortunately, the other two native (non TCP/IP-based, unlike MS Portrait and Gphone) Bluetooth messaging applications, ProximityMail and Bluetooth Chat (latest, tested, still available versions 1.44 and 0.5b, respectively) are both useless and no longer developed.

The former, ProximityMail, will never be updated; the developer, Inventop Corp, has removed all references to the product, including even the old download link (also see this). Its successor, BUZZeeBee (see the homepage for more info), still only has a desktop PC version. (They have been promising the Pocket PC version for months; there is still no sign of it).

The latter, Bluetooth Chat by Andrey Demidov, hasn�t been updated for three years and also seems to be completely abandoned. Needless to say, it has never really worked either.
 
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-21-2006, 09:20 PM
jlp
Pontificator
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,079

So to summerize your review this program only works on 10% of all PPCs in use today 8O.

Is that a good summary? 8)

Bad, bad, bad :evil:
 
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:04 PM.