05-29-2006, 10:30 AM
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Developer & Designer, News Editor Emeritus
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Ultra-Mobile PC - Act 2: Vistagami
"With the first Origami devices out the door, Microsoft is setting its sights on the next generation of tiny tablet PCs--products known within the company as "Vistagami" devices. The new minitablets are likely to resemble the first of the ultramobile PCs, though they will run Windows Vista, rather than XP. Hopefully, they will come with a lower price tag than the first devices, such as Samsung's Q1, which starts at $1,100."
Lower price tags would be nice, along with some improvements in hardware too. Are any of you looking forward to the next generation of UMPCs running Windows Vista?
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05-29-2006, 10:38 AM
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5000+ Posts? I Should OWN This Site!
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Yeah, it'd be nice to have some really decent UMPC hardware, also capable of running Vista. The Samsung Q1 is, for me, a huge disappointment, especially at that price. (Native resolution only 800 x 480 at 7"? Only a touchscreen, instead of the much more reliable and durable (no glass touch screen to break) "cyberpen"? Only a Celeron M intead of Pentium-M/Centrino (let's not forget the latter supports Speedstep and, therefore, definitely lower power consumption, while Celeron-M's don't)? All this for $1100 (twice the price of what has been announced at the start of the Origami project)?)
Surely, some other UMPC's like the pocketable (!) Sony Vaio UX seem to be much better than the Samsung - I'd even get one (if they weren't that expensive) as a nice companion to my Thinkpad a31p (alhtought, I'd stick to the latter for anything serious, mostly because of the keyboard, the screen and the excellent expansion - Ultrabay - capabilities).
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05-29-2006, 12:20 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 41
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Yes, I am looking forward to the arrival of new and improved 2nd or 3rd generation units. I'd really like to have one now but the rational side of my brain is making me wait.
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05-29-2006, 01:28 PM
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Philosopher
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 541
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If someone would give me one of the current models I would take it :-)
But rationally and I guess unfortunatelly, none of the current modes is really worth it, if you consider price and performance.
I guess I'll wait for next generation, and who knows maybe there will be under $1000 device, or maybe even a bigger version of HTC Universal, with 5-7" screen and Vista, now that would be cool...
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05-29-2006, 02:55 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 38
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I find the voice recognition in Vista to be very promising as it is so tightly integrated into the OS. If these new devices come with docking stations (keyboard, mouse, monitor, USB, etc.), I can see them becoming my primary device. I certainly won't buy one until they run Vista. I will never bet on the ability to upgrade from XP to Vista on one of these devices; I have been burned too many times with PPCs.
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05-29-2006, 02:56 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 38
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I find the voice recognition in Vista to be very promising as it is so tightly integrated into the OS. If these new devices come with docking stations (keyboard, mouse, monitor, USB, etc.), I can see them becoming my primary device. I certainly won't buy one until they run Vista. I will never bet on the ability to upgrade from XP to Vista on one of these devices; I have been burned too many times with PPCs.
Oops. This is a double post . . . and I cannot seem to delete it. Sorry about that. But don't worry; I will be reporting it to the Department of Redundancy Department.
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05-29-2006, 02:59 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 60
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The closest i'll get to a UMPC at this time is my Nokia internet tablet. Although i'm the kinda guy thats got to have the latest and greatest gadgets before anyone.. I'll hold out till 2nd gen and prices to go down a bit.
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05-29-2006, 03:32 PM
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Neophyte
Join Date: Dec 2006
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All good points, but...
...when I bought a Toshiba e805, it set me back $600. My Q1 is just less than double that and has an almost infinite magnatude of greater functionality. It's not a perfect device by far; yes it's pricey when you simply look at the paper specs, but the ability to carry and use an XP machine in one hand is worth something too. As far as "vistagami"; I'm already running Vista 5381 on a separate partition on the Q1. 
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05-29-2006, 03:59 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 349
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My first and foremost concern is battery life (or ease of recharging), then processing power. Many times, I'm caught with little battery power left on my Pocket PC devices, that I'd dread to think how I'd be if I ran out of juice on my tablet/notebook/subnotebook PC.
If they can concentrate on how to implement a thin, retractable cord from the device where I could charge anywhere via an AC outlet or a powered USB/mini-USB port, or get the price point down on a solid-state hard drive, I might care a lot less if I was on a Celeron 900MHz. After all, these devices should be secondary devices (primary on-the-go, but backup to a desktop or home/office PC).
All the reason why my most used application on my Pocket PC Phone Edition devices is the LogMeIn Remote Client. I don't have to worry about whether or not Internet Explorer Mobile can handle the page, or if I need to do something that requires a lot more processing power.
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05-29-2006, 06:42 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 177
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Yes, I can't wait to have a device that runs Windows Vista as well and as quickly as my PDA runs WM5...
(somehow the :wink: smiley just doesn't sufficiently represent the stength of the sarcasm that I intended to accompany the above statement...)
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