03-17-2006, 12:00 PM
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Virtual Pool Mobile Updated to Support Windows Mobile 5.0, VGA, and the Intel 2700G
Virtual Pool Mobile has been updated to support Windows Mobile 5.0, VGA displays, and the Intel 2700G GPU. If you own an X50v or X51v, you'll definitely want to give this game a go. It looks spectacular.
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03-17-2006, 01:24 PM
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Sage
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Well, save for a few random flashing characters in the background in the menus, it really does look great. Wow.
Between that and TCPMP, I'm really glad I got the Axim. Thanks for the heads up, Darius!
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03-17-2006, 03:12 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Jun 2005
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:cry: Looks like it won't work on VGA devices other than the X50v or X51v, i.e. without the GPU...
Can anyone confirm this?
In other words, is there a non-GPU version that supports WM5 and/or VGA resolution?
I'm getting a Jasjar in two weeks and it would have been nice to play full VGA pool on it.
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03-17-2006, 06:30 PM
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I mailed Celeris about this several weeks ago. The X50/X51 version has been available for some time. They told me they were beta testing a 'standard' VGA version at the time. I asked if they needed any testers ... heard nothing more.
I thought this announcement meant that they had released the 'standard' VGA version, but nothing in their web site indicates that :-(
I remain hopeful I really enjoyed the game on my QVGA PPC, and wanted to see how great it could be on VGA ...
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03-17-2006, 06:30 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: May 2003
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anyone try it on 240X240 screens? Wonder if it will work on the Treo 700w...
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03-18-2006, 08:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHoward999
I mailed Celeris about this several weeks ago. The X50/X51 version has been available for some time. They told me they were beta testing a 'standard' VGA version at the time. I asked if they needed any testers ... heard nothing more.
I thought this announcement meant that they had released the 'standard' VGA version, but nothing in their web site indicates that :-(
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Yes, indeed it's the non-2700g VGA version that's brand new - just checked the internal filedates in C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\Virtual Pool Mobile\VPMobileTrialPPC.SA.cab (the standard PPC version - which is VGA on VGA devices) and C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\Virtual Pool Mobile GLES\VPMobileGLESTrial.SA.cab (the 2700g-enabled version).
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I remain hopeful I really enjoyed the game on my QVGA PPC, and wanted to see how great it could be on VGA ...
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It is great on my Pocket Loox 720. It uses in-game VGA resolution and not much more jerky than on my x51v. Really good game on a VGA device!
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03-18-2006, 08:27 AM
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Additional Intel 2700g Games Report
BTW, for you 2700g owners:
I've continued investigating three additional 2700g-optimized games and found out really a lot. These games are all highly recommended if you happen to have a Dell Axim x50v/ x51v Pocket PC; these Pocket PC models both have an Intel 2700g graphics co-processor, which makes it possible to run 3D games really well.
Pulse Interactive's Quake Mobile 1.2
(Note that the game can't be accessed on the above URL; not even links are provided in there. Therefore, you must go straight to for example the Handango page to get the game.)
This (commercial - it costs $19.95) game is, visually, much better on the x50v/x51v than Dan East's non-2700g-optimized, albeit free and multiplayer-enabled (please read this article on everything multiplayer) Quake ports.
Unfortunately, it has no trial version and, as of the first (Scourge of Armagon) and the second (Dissolution of Eternity) expansion packs, both released on 2005-11-30, still don't support multiplayer mode.
If you like having the CAB files around for desktop-independent game installation: the installer decompresses installs two .CAB files to c:\Pulse_Interactive_Quake_Mobile\. You'll only need one of them if you prefer CAB-based installing: either the big one containing everything, MobileQuakeBg.PPC2003_ARM.CAB) or the small one, MobileQuakeSm.PPC2003_ARM.CAB.
Note that the original version of the game didn't support stylus-based playing. The Handango version downloadable from early December 2005, however, already supported the in-game stylus usage. Therefore, you may want to redownload the game if you have purchased it before last December - or, request the patch from the author itself. His e-mail address can be found in the just-linked thread.
I also recommend this thread for an improved control setup. You can also read some rants on the game here.
Noctem Entertainment's Quake 3 1.1b
This free port comes in two versions: a 2700g (Dell Axim x50v/RAM-upgraded x51v)-only and a generic one.
I've spent some hours today on trying to make work on my non-RAM-upgraded Dell Axim x51v (along with my other PDA's). Unfortunately, it won't work. The only way to run it on the x51v is the $169 PocketPCTechs 128Mbyte RAM upgrade. Otherwise, just forget it.
Unfortunately, I had no luck with the generic, non-2700g version either. It wouldn't even start (complaining of lack of RAM) on any of my WM5 devices (the x51v and the HTC Wizard; both had about 31 Mbytes of RAM free). It started on my (freshly hard reset - I haven't installed anything in the RAM or run anything else -, 48 Mbyte-RAM-free) HP iPAQ 2210 but none of the single-player games worked because of the shortage of memory (I had the maximum memory available - around 48Mbytes).
On my 128M RAM, freshly hard reset, VGA Fujitsu-Siemens Pocket Loox 720, I didn't even get to the main menu, not even with the Picard VGA GAPI hack. After loading the console, the screen went black for a moment and, then, the game has just exit.
Also see this AximSite thread for a complete tutorial on creating the needed pak0.pk3 file. I really recommend biohzrd's tutorial (2nd page, 11-10-05, 10:07 AM) and my additional one (3rd page, 03-17-2006). It'll make everything really easy - as opposed to the useless INSTALL.txt that comes with the game. Nevertheless, unless you have a Dell Axim x50v (or a memory-upgraded Dell Axim x51v) so that you can really enjoy the 2700g visuals, it's not really worth bothering with the pak0.pk3 creation - most likely, it's highly possible it just won't run on your PDA.
Blacksmith Studios' Solterra
This once-commercial, 2700g-enabled space shooter game has been made free in the meantime. You only need to click the Buy icon on the official homepage and enter your Pocket PC owner name on the new page into the PPC owner name textfield; then, you'll get the free registration code. It'll be something like "b027318a1507681" (don't mistake it for the GoNinja/GoNinjaPocketPC registration codes).
It's also on this page that you can download the installer file (or a ZIP file containing the compressed files; you will need to uncompress the contents of the ZIP file and just transfer them to your PDA, in any subdirectory.)
The game itself, in my opinion, isn't very interesting/entertaining. For example, even the non-2700g-enabled (!) PDAMill Anthelion and, particularly, the VGA-enabled (I've tested it on both my VGA non-2700g Pocket Loox 720 and Dell Axim x51v and it was completely playable on both devices) Anthelion 2 are both far more addictive and playable in almost every respect (it has much better music, much better campaigns etc), despite having no direct 2700g support.
You may still want to give this game a try - after all, it's a free game.
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03-18-2006, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Menneisyys
indeed it's the non-2700g VGA version that's brand new
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I already own the full (non-VGA) version. I don't see a way to download the full installer without repurchasing VPM. Does that mean this is not available as an upgrade for current owners? The web site is woefully short of information ... :-(
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03-18-2006, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveHoward999
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Originally Posted by Menneisyys
indeed it's the non-2700g VGA version that's brand new
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I already own the full (non-VGA) version. I don't see a way to download the full installer without repurchasing VPM. Does that mean this is not available as an upgrade for current owners? The web site is woefully short of information ... :-(
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I was wondering the same thing. Their curent version is higher than the one I bought and well, there's no information about upgrading.
I'm really not happy about having to pay for a point release since I don't even want the VGA version.
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03-18-2006, 08:07 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Feb 2004
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I just tried the demo on my Toshiba e800, which is VGA, running WM2003FE+MyVGA. It's VERY jerky hence unplayable. Anyone know a fix for this?
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