02-17-2006, 03:00 AM
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Thinker
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 349
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If Our Devices Were Built-to-Order...
Now that some of the newest and forthcoming Phone Edition devices are being revealed or presented at the 3GSM World Congress 2006 in Barcelona, the online communities are abuzz with both anticipation as well as frustration.
With initial reports of the HTC Hermes' technical specifications (i.e. a possibly-inferior clock speed on its CPU, yet another memory module type to deal with, and a non-standard mini-USB port that may impose new cables and accessories), to other devices that just seem to lack just one or two major features (such as a QVGA screen, quadband, EDGE, Wi-Fi or at least 128MB ROM) to make it the "killer product," one has to ponder: who's "behind the wheel" to make these seemingly haphazard decisions? Is anyone listening to the end-user's needs? :roll:
Given the opportunity to build your own Phone Edition device and keeping within reality and affordability (i.e. no 2.2" SVGA LCD or 3500mAh Lithium-Polymer battery the size of a quarter), what would be the specifications of your device and how much would you be willing to pay for it? Is there a device now or in the near future that you would make a few changes to, in order to get it right? What are your thoughts on getting your ideas to the right people, so that we won't be scratching our heads at the next conference? :?
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02-17-2006, 03:59 AM
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Mystic
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,768
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WM5 Phone Edition
HTC Wizard good looks with Universal swivel style screen (slight slimmer and narrower than current Wizard)
Slide-out keyboard to increase size similar to Universal (remember Think Outside mobile keyboard)?
External LCD when closed
External dial and d-pad buttons when closed
2.4" VGA
BT 2.0
BT HID and Mass Storage support native
WiFi b/g/a
Integrated GPS
GSM Quad Band
EDGE/UMTS/HSPDA
Consumer IR
256mb+ ROM
128mb RAM
Dual MiniSD slots
USB Slave and Host
Jog Dial with push
Replace internal d-pad with PSP-style analog stick with push-click
Support DualSIM and SIM with flash
OMAP 3430 or newer CPU clocked at 550Mhz or higher
3D accelerated video (NVidia, Intel, ATI, etc)
Integrated sterep speakers
backside 3+ megapixel camera with true flash
VGA camera on LCD side (video conferencing)
TV Tuner (analog and satellite)
AM/FM integrated tuner
XM integrated tuner
I can dream, can't I? I would pay upwards of $1.5k if all this came in the sub-Wizard sized do it all PDA/Phone
Update: Some things I forgot added
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02-17-2006, 04:08 AM
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Developer & Designer, News Editor Emeritus
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,959
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And good battery life to go with it. 
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02-17-2006, 04:17 AM
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Sage
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 800
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3.7 VGA LTPS TFT-LCD
BT 2.0
1 GB ROM
128 RAM
1500mah battery minimum
The next generation of 1.5 (or 1.25?)ghz processor from Intel
USB Host
Jog dial
"Standard" SD, no CF to keep size like n300
Wifi b/g
laser projected keyboard built -in:wink http://www.virtual-laser-keyboard.com/)
Some kind of graphic accelerator from Intel, NVIDIA, ATI
GPS, EDGE, and other broadband wireless
Stereo speaker/microphone
Decent 3 megapixel camera with 3X optical zoom with REAL flash at least
Under $500
etc.
And MOST important of ALL, my dream device will be free of the bugs found on HTC devices. :roll:
edit: Modified a few things
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02-17-2006, 04:19 AM
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Pupil
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 20
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the wizard with updated looks and better construction
- better stylus silo
- add gps
- double the ram and rom
- better processor (something like the m600's)
- improved battery
- maybe 5mm thinner as well or get the device to be 20mm thick
- maybe a 3.5mm audio adapter
- consumer ir
- usb host
that's it, it's pretty doable, i don't need a vga res on such a small screen anyways or a built-in hard drive etc.
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02-17-2006, 04:27 AM
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Thinker
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 312
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1. Start with an Ipaq 4150
2. Increase the thickness just a bit to accomodate a slide keyboard (ala Samsung i730)
3. Upgrade Wifi to G and BT to 2.0
4. Add a battery somewhere around 1250mah
You've got yourself a winner.
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02-17-2006, 04:41 AM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 91
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At the moment I'm looking at going for the JASJAR I really want a keyboard and VGA. I'm a bit put off by the size.
I'd go for a KJAM with VGA and an SD Slot and a better camera, better batery too, but that's a given. Also have the AKU2 patch.
I'd ask for GPS too but I think I'm pushing it as it is.
Where are all the VGA phone edition devices? :?:
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02-17-2006, 06:06 AM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 94
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I'd like to see something like the e-Ten m600 with the following changes:
Consumer IR (or any IR for that matter!)
128 MB RAM (at the very least)
256 MB Flash ROM (at the very least)
Dual SDIO slots
VGA screen
USB host without having to use the cradle
Decent battery life
EDGE compatible (for US customers)
BT 2.0
WiFi 802.11g (not b)
624MHz CPU or faster
Direct from MS updates rather than going through the OEMs
3.5 mm headphone jack
I think about $700 would be reasonable (as an upper limit) for this. I also think that these specs are easily doable.
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02-17-2006, 06:47 AM
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Neophyte
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 8
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Let's see...
Universal design plus external dsp., it can be monocrome.
Wi-Fi b/g but WiMax even better!
BT 2.0
VGA although QVGA is ok
EDGE/Quad-band/UTMS/
(CDMA is unacceptable cause VZ and crippled BT,Sprint is stingy on minutes)
One of them next-gen Intel CPU's, but that new TI's ok
A video acclerator (ATi cause most of the enhanced programs use one,but I'm an Nvidia fanboy)
Keyboard is preferred
A SD card slot!
Rubberization -for the unavoidable drop
128mb ram
64mb rom but room to solder on more
FM radio with RDS and "Hi-Def"
USB host
WM 5.0 sans memory hole!
More colors than black and sliver
Consumer IR and Nevo
CCD based camara
Battery life is not a top priority
And most importantly...it should be available in the US!
and I wouldn't pay more than 450$ unlocked. I know, I'm cheap :mrgreen: but subsides go far!
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02-17-2006, 07:38 AM
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Pupil
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 48
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3.7" VGA and the size of the Acer n311
128MB RAM (very important as I can't do mult-tasking really with only 64MB RAM)
624MHz or faster CPU
a graphic card to help playback movies
64MB ROM or above
WiFi 802.11b
Bluetooth, any verision
SD or CF card slot
6 hardware buttons
well built cradle (i broke my Dell X50v cradle two times in the last year, I don't think the dell cradle is a good design)
3.5mm jack
USB host
decent battery life
willing to pay max of $750 CAD for it
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