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Old 02-15-2006, 10:00 PM
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Default Pocket PC Italia Discusses Upcoming HTC Hermes

http://www.pocketpcitalia.com/News/...o-l-HTC-Hermes-

"It has not been announced during the 3GSM World Congress and before that it arrives on the market it will be necessary to attend still various months. However, we have had the possibility to put the hands on the new HTC Hermes. next Pocket PC Phone Edition of HTC with support UMTS, of which you we propose the technical images in exclusive right and detailed lists."



Bad automated English translation aside, it's pretty easy to spot the rumored new features of the Hermes over the HTC Wizard: 300MHz Samsung processor, UMTS/HSDPA support, Bluetooth 2.0, and a 2.1 megapixel camera. If this is the case, I hope US UMTS frequencies are supported. However, this unit is still unannounced and it will be awhile before it's confirmed and in users' hands.
 
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Old 02-15-2006, 10:28 PM
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Well to be fair, the Wizard already has BT2, it's just waiting to be switched on in a ROM update.

As for the rest, it seems to me to be a reasonable incremental upgrade, but I'm not to sure about the practical changes to it...

First of all, is that MiniSD slot moved to the side? I've always hated that. Not that there are (m)any MiniSD peripherals, but having addons poking out the side is as user-unfriendly as you can ask for. IR on the bottom of the device seems a strange choice, too. Hold it upside down before you can use it.

Buttons.. the same as the Wizard, but with the two top buttons moved to the side. Side buttons are good, but there are already some there. One side has two buttons next to each other and one below, the other two buttons and a jog dial directly next to each other. I hope the next generation still has space at the side to actually hold it!.
Also bear in mind that in landscape mode, side buttons become top/bottom buttons. Ergonomics-wsie, this seems a step down.

Still, UTMS, a proper camera, and a camera for voice chat aren't improvements to dismiss, either.

Given a direct choice between this and it's predecessor, I can't say straight up which I'd go for.
 
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Old 02-15-2006, 10:42 PM
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1. It's a microSD slot, previously known as TransFlash. Used initially in the Motorola V710 from Verizon, it was a really tiny memory module and had a maximum capacity of 256MB. I think it's up to 512MB now, but they are hard to come by.

2. The S3C2442 processor from Samsung is likely a step up from the S3C2440 processor found in the E-TEN M500/M600 (aka TORQ P100/P120). So, if you've played with those Pocket PCs using Windows Mobile 5, imagine it running 25% slower, and that's what the Hermes might feel like.

3. If there's no EDGE, it'll be very similar to the JASJAR for US customers, especially if there's no compatibility with UMTS/HSDPA (or if Cingular didn't roll it out to your area yet). Either GPRS or Wi-Fi, and there's a big difference between the two.

It's a few steps forward, and a few steps back. But hey, at least there's a jog dial.
 
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Old 02-15-2006, 10:42 PM
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@MrRay: Its Micro SD (=Transflash) not Mini SD!

I still think that the Alpine (6700) has the best keyboard and button arrangement of all the Wizardstyle devices.

The Alpine has the two softbuttons to the side of the keyboard, easy to use with two hands.

And compared to a Nokia 9300 ALL these devices make VERY poor use iof the real estate under the screen. Look at how much space is simply wasted and dont tell me this is absolutely necessary for the sliding mechanism.

The Nokia 9300 manages to squeeze all the standard alphabet buttons, additional buttons for european characters like �, � and � and an addition ROW of number keys PLUS an additional row of application keys in a space quite comparable to that of a Wizard or Hermes. How do they do that? For one, the device is longer, which explains how they easily managed to cram in the extra european character buttons. Another reason: They opted to leave out the four directional keys (which are somewhat redundant since you can still use the Dpad) and opted for a joystick instead which uses 1/4 of the space of 4 buttons.

But the way they crammed in TWO additional rows of buttons for numbers and applications (the latter ones are a bit smaller in size) is something the engeneers at HTC should have looked at long ago and copied in their designs. I simply dont understand why I have to use the special (blue) function key every other second while typing.

On the photograph, the buttons dont look square but a bit wider than tall. Why not make them square and also 1-2mm smaller in height. That would make room for an addition number row and maybe enouight room for some special characters to the right.
 
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Old 02-15-2006, 10:46 PM
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@Raphael: You beat me to the punch :-)

I am not quite sure though, why you are getting so excited about the jog wheel. Its probably just used for adjusting the phone and device volume like before..
 
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Old 02-15-2006, 10:55 PM
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Aaaah MicroSD. I completely misread that. ops: You know what it's like when you miss something like that because you're just not expecting them to do something so dumb. MiniSD isn't perfect, but at least it currently goes up to 2GB for a decent enough price.

Wow, that would completely kill the device for me, even if it wasn't for the wizard.
 
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Old 02-15-2006, 11:07 PM
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I don't understand what the point of all these redundant hardware designs is. Is HTC throwing Spaghetti at the walling, waiting to see what sticks?

Apache...Wizard...Hermes? They all look the same to me.
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Old 02-15-2006, 11:09 PM
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If I could choose between Hermes and Wizard, the advanced features on Hermes would prevail. But since I allready have a Wizard and really like it, I'm not sure that Hermes is enough of an upgrade to get me to switch.
Also like previous poster said it, they could put more keys on the keyboard, there is plenty of space...
 
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Old 02-15-2006, 11:35 PM
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I would like some of the new features, but I'm not about to throw away the recent money spent on MiniSD.

First CF (Ipaq), then SD (HP), then MiniSD (Wizard) - fair enough - size and things do move on but for HTC to change to MicroSD from MiniSD - enough is enough.

I hope the report is wrong..
 
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Old 02-15-2006, 11:39 PM
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Aaaaah !! Finally it's seems to be nearing release
I've been waiting for this baby...
I'm currently on a Jam, and it's getting old in terms of connectivity. I thought the Wizard was quite fat, but apart from that perfect in size. Hermes seems to fix that: it looks like a regular Jam, but with a slide out keyboard (and all the wireless :drool: goodies ofcourse). Dual cam is cool...only too bad for the MicroSD slot. 1GB will be available shortly, but that seems small these days....doesn't it
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