10-31-2005, 02:00 PM
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Is Microsoft's Implementation of Direct Push The Blackberry Killer?
http://www.emailbattles.com/archive/battles/email_aacjcehbfg_ag/
"Blackberry killer. That's Microsoft's hope for its new ActiveSync Direct Push Technology in Exchange 2003 Service Pack 2 for Windows Mobile 5.0. Gives non-Windows handsets fast Blackberry-like access to all your Exchange stuff: messages, schedules, contacts, tasks lists, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. Allegedly works with darned near everything and everybody Microsoft licenses... Redmond thinks ActiveSync with Direct Push Technology will finally bring it within spitting distance of Chatter and, hope-of-all-hopes, surpass hosted services like Blackberry and Good. The company's ace-in-the-hole... all-in-one-box convenience... makes lots of network managers giddy enough to bite. More security-minded admins may choose to wait. Windows Mobile 5.0 has been FIPS 140-2 certified. Its encryption method is OK for use by the U.S. Government. Unfortunately, its message transport system is not."
To bring you up to speed, current Exchange 2003 servers (pre-SP2) did push via an SMS message to the device to trigger a sync. Of course, SMS messages can be delayed, lost and are hardly less than real time, especially as users travel the globe. Service Pack 2 for Exchange 2003, coupled with the Microsoft Security Feature Pack in Windows Mobile 5 (everyone offer up a stylus and memory card over a warm USB hub to the gods of mobile computing so they may bestow upon you the ROM update necessary for this :roll: ) will allow your device to maintain an HTTP link directly with the Exchange server regardless of where you are, so long as you have a link via a cellular service, WiFi users need not apply, you can count on almost instant emails, perhaps faster than those in your network slogging away at a desktop. The server will then tug on that HTTP link, an HTTP refresh command, that will then initiate the sync. It is said to be faster notification than that of Blackberry users.
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10-31-2005, 02:27 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Sep 2003
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This new technology from MS should prove to be our new contingency plan in case RIM goes completely bankrupt. It is easier to explain to clients that MS version of Push is integrated into new Windows Mobile 5.0 PDAs. Also MS Push can be used with any number of devices that are non-MS. As a consultant we need to cover our backs, Microsoft is always a constant, they are not going anywhere and they have the resources to fend off potential lawsuits from small nuisance companies like NTP.
I know in November my company has a MS Partner training session, hopefully they will talk about this and demo it there.
Anyways, I find this MS Push a good idea.
Thank you,
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10-31-2005, 02:46 PM
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Magi
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What "push email"? MS doesn't have push email to mobile devices. There has been a lot of talk about it. In fact most of us, were under the impression that WM5.0 devices would have push email. They don't. Once it got close to launch time for WM5 devices we discovered that Exchange SP2 would not be out in time. Then it wasn't till it was released that we were told that it would be months before the necessary "Feature Pack" would be available for WM5 devices.
We were all mislead on this one. I've read lots of angry posts from people wondering why the device they bought thinking it would have push email....doesn't.
It bothers me to no end that enthusiast like myself and and many others here put considerable efforts into push Microsoft's mobile devices, only to have MS confuse issues, and delay releases.
I wonder, does anyone at Microsoft realize that there are a large amount of people out there very disappointed that they spent hundreds of dollars on new WM5 devices to get push email, to find out that they will not see it for several months?......Friggggg....some days I wonder why I bother!!
Dave
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10-31-2005, 04:02 PM
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I guess I'll have to go back to corporate slavery to be able to understand why eMail has become so urgent that it has to arrive instantly. In the last 10 years I have never found it necessary for eMail to be any mor e'instant' than for it to be there when I look for it ...
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10-31-2005, 04:04 PM
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I think Ed hit on a great point here... this is all well and good if the OEMs update the ROMs to allow for the new Security Feature Pack. That, to me, is the whole key to this even being a discussion. If OEMs do not adopt (ie MS doesn't force them to adopt it), then I really don't see how this discussion can go much futher.
Besides, RIM is taking care of being the "RIM Killer" themselves. :lol:
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10-31-2005, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Paragon
What "push email"? MS doesn't have push email to mobile devices.
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It pushes right now via SMS. Still does and will for the forseeable future until MS decides to stop supporting that push method when they think enough WM2003/SE devices are abandoned. I bet Exchange 12 supports it but the one after that might not.
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10-31-2005, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Paragon
It bothers me to no end that enthusiast like myself and and many others here put considerable efforts into push Microsoft's mobile devices, only to have MS confuse issues, and delay releases.
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This is so true, you hit the nail on the head. I almost had my organization convinced to buy 30+ WM5.0 devices for "push email". Then I said, but understand, it's not really available just yet. It will be soon.
Guess what, when I visit the corporate office the end of November, I'll be taking delivery of a new company issued Blackberry. The executives just want something that works and is available now, not "announced". They don't want to wait for some mythical future date. Believe it or not they think they have a company to run, and can't sit around all day reading about MS planned future devices.
The whole thing is very typical Microsoft, however. They seem to always be "announcing" a new product or feature, simply to ward off competition. Then it takes forever to actually get the announced feature.
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10-31-2005, 05:31 PM
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Re: Is Microsoft's Implementation of Direct Push The Blackberry Killer?
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Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
WiFi users need not apply
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Are you sure about this? I was under the impression (although I could, clearly, be wrong) that the Pocket PC would use any network connection that worked for it.
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10-31-2005, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveHoward999
I guess I'll have to go back to corporate slavery to be able to understand why eMail has become so urgent that it has to arrive instantly. In the last 10 years I have never found it necessary for eMail to be any mor e'instant' than for it to be there when I look for it ...
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I'm with you Steve. I even have my corporate mail set up so it goes out and GETS new mail every 10 minutes. I can do that with my PPC now and don't see how the stuff that happened in that 10 minutes can be that earth shattering. Well, maybe I can for some folks, but I feel sorry for them. If it's that freakin' urgent, they can call me.
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10-31-2005, 05:55 PM
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Re: Is Microsoft's Implementation of Direct Push The Blackberry Killer?
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Originally Posted by Philip Colmer
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Are you sure about this? I was under the impression (although I could, clearly, be wrong) that the Pocket PC would use any network connection that worked for it.
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Read the next clause "you can count on almost instant emails". with WiFi, assuming you are connected, you are...well...connected. It's that sort of disconnected situation that push e-mail covers. Like your phone is available on the network, and can be accessed/commanded to ring, but it doesn't have a voice channel open all the time.
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