09-07-2005, 08:00 PM
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Magi
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Rumors: HP hw6515 Recall + No Windows Mobile 5 Support
For anyone who owns the hw6515 iPaq or is thinking of buying one, we have a couple of nasty rumors that may have you running and screaming in the opposite direction. First, we've received a tip that HP is considering a recall of the hw6515 due to a GPS issue and second, we're also hearing that there will be no Windows Mobile 5.0 support offered for the hw6515 in the future.
I certainly hope these rumors prove false, but if they aren't, then the lack of support for WM5 with the hw6515 would seem to imply that the hw6715 may suffer the same fate as well. With all the commotion around Exchange 2003 SP2 and the new messaging and security features added onto WM5, HP would not be positioning themselves well with Microsoft's messaging strategy. I will point out that HP does have a partnership agreement with GoodLink Technology and according to my own sources, there may have been some discussion on when HP should roll out Windows Mobile 5 support in consideration of this partnership. Whether that played any role in the rumors regarding WM5 support or not, I don't know.
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09-07-2005, 08:13 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Nov 2002
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Ouch! 8O
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09-07-2005, 08:23 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Aug 2004
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I'm still in shock and awe with my h6315. I just don't see myself buying another HP phone. It is obvious that they don't have the competency and commitment for the product line.
Also Microsoft needs to take more control and responsibility in the upgradeability of Pocket PC/Phones.
I'm still mad that WM10 is not a free software upgrade. With apple comming out with an itunes phones people are talking and sqwaking like crazy. But if Microsoft had been smart enough they would have cornered this market while apple was still at the drawing board for the Ipod.
Microsoft definitely needs some management reforms. Steve Balmer needs to give this company a focus. So does HP.
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09-07-2005, 08:28 PM
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Magi
Join Date: Sep 2005
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How many times can one company shoot themselves in the foot?
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09-07-2005, 08:38 PM
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Philosopher
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paragon
How many times can one company shoot themselves in the foot?
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I don't think this is coming from the choice of HP. If you look at the decision made, it seems like 3rd-party companies are the source of problems.
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09-07-2005, 08:41 PM
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Magi
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gremmie
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paragon
How many times can one company shoot themselves in the foot?
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I don't think this is coming from the choice of HP. If you look at the decision made, it seems like 3rd-party companies are the source of problems.
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sort of like the 4700 WM5.0 delay.....anyone see a pattern here? ....Blame it on FEMA!!
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09-07-2005, 09:23 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Jul 2004
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New Slogan:
HP: Invent...new ways to botch products
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09-07-2005, 09:27 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gremmie
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paragon
How many times can one company shoot themselves in the foot?
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I don't think this is coming from the choice of HP. If you look at the decision made, it seems like 3rd-party companies are the source of problems.
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That only means that HP cannot manage third parties correctly. The third party may introduce the problem but the blame should be laid squarely at the feet of hp (both their qa and legal teams). This too similar to the problems with the delay in the to wm5 for the 4700.
This is both a problem for HP but also the wider adoption of PPC. Microsoft must be spitting feathers - they finally have something that can match or surpass Blackberry and probably their premium OEM can't actually get it right.
If I was the product manager for PPC I would now be seriously exploring the possibility of doing something with an ODM probably HTC. If my premium OEM's can't get it right why not solve the problem internally.
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09-07-2005, 10:28 PM
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Magi
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Just to clarify, the source of the rumors with regards to the recall and lack of future WM5 support are different than the sources who have informed me of the impact that the GoodLink partnership had on HP's Windows Mobile 5 support schedule.
In other words, the first paragraph is based on a tip we received at PPCT and the 2nd paragraph is based on my own sources. Whether there's a connection between the two or not is purely speculation at this point.
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09-07-2005, 10:41 PM
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Pontificator
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ekkie Tepsupornchai
Just to clarify, the source of the rumors with regards to the recall and lack of future WM5 support are different than the sources who have informed me of the impact that the GoodLink partnership had on HP's Windows Mobile 5 support schedule.
In other words, the first paragraph is based on a tip we received at PPCT and the 2nd paragraph is based on my own sources. Whether there's a connection between the two or not is purely speculation at this point.
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In other words, Goodlink paid a lot of money to HP to be the "exclusive" push email provider and HP is trying to figure out how that can happen when MS provides push as part of WM5 and the Exchange upgrade.
I think if you start to connect the dots, you start to see how HP's greed is starting to impact their ability to deliver products in the long term, and will probably hurt their long term profits as well.
We should remember this is all rumor today, but it seems every time we turn around HP is finding a creative way to drive away customers. It makes rumors such as these more believable. :evil:
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