08-19-2005, 03:43 AM
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08-19-2005, 08:13 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 127
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Sorry, but sms-triggered pull even if transient to the user is NOT a true push email solution. If that is indeed the way MS will be implementing so called push email, then it will not compare to other 'real push' solutions like Goodlink, BB Connect and even Chatteremail on the Treo...
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08-19-2005, 09:26 PM
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Contributing Editor Emeritus
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,228
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Originally Posted by mangochutneyman
Sorry, but sms-triggered pull even if transient to the user is NOT a true push email solution. If that is indeed the way MS will be implementing so called push email, then it will not compare to other 'real push' solutions like Goodlink, BB Connect and even Chatteremail on the Treo...
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Agreed - SMS is how it is done now and no one is happy with that overall. I didn't mention it, but while SMS at least is workable in a cellular situation, it doesn't work where you have no coverage but you do have a WiFi connection.
The new method uses HTTP to maintain a connection with the server, so if you have *any* TCP/IP connection (BT modem, BT WLAN, WiFi, GPRS, EDGE, EVDO, whatever) the Exchange server can ensure the device gets the message.
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08-19-2005, 10:30 PM
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Sage
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 740
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Ed,
you need to register your ThoughtCase with iTunes so I can download this along with all of the other PodCasts I listen to in one place.
Thanks for the great job you're doing!
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Kind Regards,
Christopher Spera
Gear Diary Review Team
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08-20-2005, 05:57 AM
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Oracle
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 952
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Great Thoughtcast ED!
I am about to be assimillated 0X
I'll still have 2 or more devices with me (convergence? :lol: ) but at least one will keep me on top of the job. :wink:
I always thought that convergence would mean one device for everything, but your recent thoughtcast showed me that personal wants and corporate necessities aren't merging any time soon.
Okay, so a treo 670 or any recent/upcoming square screen converged device isn't going to be as great a movie, music, GPS, or picture player than a E-125. But wow! the possibilities to get office work done you spoke on are really convincing.
Do you think having a VGA device for fun, a Smartphone for personal stuff, and a converged device for work is overdoing it?
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08-20-2005, 11:11 PM
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Swami
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 4,303
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Re: Great Thoughtcast ED!
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Originally Posted by Don't Panic!
Do you think having a VGA device for fun, a Smartphone for personal stuff, and a converged device for work is overdoing it?
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I hope not, as that's the way I'm thinking at the moment. :wink:
(Though in all honesty, it may be a tad much).
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08-21-2005, 08:09 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 212
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I have always wanted PUSH email for my PPC 6601 on Sprint. And have my POP account set to pull mail every 10 minutes as it is now.
I looked at 4smartphone.net and went to set up a trial account....... but I am worried about battery life from each message/sms coming in and the fact that it will whipe my contacts, appts, tasks etc. when it sets up the device.
Is this something that I should be worried about? I really only want the email pushed. I don't need my PIM info on an exchange as well.
Comments?
Thanks and I love the thoughtcast!
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08-21-2005, 09:26 PM
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Contributing Editor Emeritus
Join Date: Aug 2006
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I am 99.9% sure when I set my Exchange 2003 server account up, I had the option to "combine" data - not wipe data out. I happend to choose the "wipe" command because my E2003 account was populated with the data already from outlook 2003.
As for SMS push - I don't do that usually. It is hard on the battery. During work hours, I use a 5 minute sync. As long as you are not on WiFi, it is very battery friendly. It can sync all day and not burn 20% of my juice on GPRS.
On nights and weekends I do use SMS-push because I may only get 20-30 emails on the weekends or weeknights so that means instead of 906 syncs during those off hours (every 5 minutes) I get 20-30. Plus it has the added benefit of waking the device up and turning on the backlight - something that is nice to see when a message comes in off of work hours, but a major pain and battery drain during the day. Unless traveling, I read and answer 75% of my emails at my desk anyway so the syncing is more or less keeping my device up to date.
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08-22-2005, 09:39 AM
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Pupil
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 39
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Originally Posted by Chris Spera
Ed,
you need to register your ThoughtCase with iTunes so I can download this along with all of the other PodCasts I listen to in one place.
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It's there. Search for 'thoughtcast' or 'pocket pc' and subscribe to 'ThoughtCast: Pocket PC Thoughts' and you'll get Ed's as well as Jason and Dave's.
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Thanks for the great job you're doing!
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Seconded!
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08-22-2005, 05:07 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 212
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Originally Posted by Ed Hansberry
I am 99.9% sure when I set my Exchange 2003 server account up, I had the option to "combine" data - not wipe data out. I happend to choose the "wipe" command because my E2003 account was populated with the data already from outlook 2003.
As for SMS push - I don't do that usually. It is hard on the battery. During work hours, I use a 5 minute sync. As long as you are not on WiFi, it is very battery friendly. It can sync all day and not burn 20% of my juice on GPRS.
On nights and weekends I do use SMS-push because I may only get 20-30 emails on the weekends or weeknights so that means instead of 906 syncs during those off hours (every 5 minutes) I get 20-30. Plus it has the added benefit of waking the device up and turning on the backlight - something that is nice to see when a message comes in off of work hours, but a major pain and battery drain during the day. Unless traveling, I read and answer 75% of my emails at my desk anyway so the syncing is more or less keeping my device up to date.
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Thanks for the reply!
Personally I kinda feel like pulling every 10 is just as good as push for me....... I am not in IT or responsible for minute by minute responses..... but I do email all day long and have a ton on email stock alerts etc. And I would like the ability to have immediate receipt of email. Still 10 minutes is pretty darn good.
Through 4smartphone when you go to set it up it says "you ARE aware that this will whipe your sytem clean" or something like that. So I figured that it must clear you device off and replace with you desktop....... or something like that. That worried me a little bit as I am only setting up the trial to 'see' if that is somthing that I am interested in using. I can imagine having the calander, task, and contacts synched through exchange is nice as well......... just don't know how 'needed' that is for me right now.
Curious if anyone else is using 4smartphone here......... opinions?
Thanks again Ed! And keep up the good work on them podcasts! It's on my itunes under ppc and I listen to it regularly!
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