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Old 08-11-2005, 04:10 AM
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Default Windows Mobile 5.0 iPAQ Mobile Messengers on the Horizon

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://h41111.bbn-stage.europe.hp.com/gomobile/uk/en/learning_centre/videos/vp_ipaq_hw6700/index.html' target='_blank'>http://h41111.bbn-stage.europe.hp.c...6700/index.html</a><br /><br /></div><a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050811-hw6xxx-01.jpg"><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050811-hw6xxx-02.jpg" /></a><br /><i>Click the image above for a larger view.</i><br /><br />HP UK has posted a quick overview of the hw6700 Mobile Messenger series - and yes, if you read that title correctly, it appears as though Windows Mobile 5.0 will be made available on these devices. The hw6710 and hw6715 features the same Intel PXA270 312MHz processor that existed in the hw6500 series, but now sports 128MB ROM alongside the 64MB RAM. Size and weight are the same - 7.1cm x 2.1cm x 11.8cm (165g). In addition to the quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE, Bluetooth and IR, the hw6700 series now features 802.11g Wi-Fi. Note the hw6715 features a 1.3MP camera (like the hw6515) and both the hw6710 and hw6715 have the same 3.0" QVGA screen seen in the hw6500 series. Of interest to some is the fact that the hw6700 series does not have an SD slot, unlike its hw6500 counterpart. <!><br /><br /><a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050811-hw6xxx-03.jpg"><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050811-hw6xxx-04.jpg" /></a><br /><i>Click the image above for a larger view.</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050811-hw6xxx-05.jpg"><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050811-hw6xxx-06.jpg" /></a><br /><i>Click the image above for a larger view.</i><br /><br />Start drooling! :drool:
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Old 08-11-2005, 04:20 AM
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Windows Mobile 2005 Second Edition, Phone Edition. Huh? Must be a typo
 
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Old 08-11-2005, 04:42 AM
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Windows Mobile 2005 Second Edition, Phone Edition. Huh? Must be a typo
Yeah, that's a bit of an oddity, but easily disregarded (I think). They may just be referring to the inclusion of the MSFP.
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Old 08-11-2005, 04:55 AM
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Wow, a second generation version for a device whose original hasn't even been released yet....now THAT"S progress :lol:

All kidding aside, this is a great device! I was seriously considering the original version, but the lack of WiFi and WM 2005 were a few hangups......viola, both are present in the new version (and 802.11g no less, a first emeded in a PDA?). NOW I just have to decide how important VGA is to me, and that will dictate my next Pocket PC.

Let us hope the delay for this thing launching (in the U.S. at least) is that Cingular has been waiting for / preparing these baby's instead!
 
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Old 08-11-2005, 05:02 AM
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So - you get a more power hungry version of WiFi (and more bandwidth than you need) but have the same battery size, the same absurdly low resolution (why on earth not 480 x 480?) and, in the process, lose the SD slot?

I see HP haven't got their clue back yet... :roll:
 
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Old 08-11-2005, 05:04 AM
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my thing is after the last garbage @$$ phone they released for tmobile who would buy this one :evil: :evil:
 
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Old 08-11-2005, 05:18 AM
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Windows Mobile 2005 Second Edition, Phone Edition. Huh? Must be a typo
Yeah, that's a bit of an oddity, but easily disregarded (I think). They may just be referring to the inclusion of the MSFP.
Those screenshots certainly don't look like Windows Mobile 5.0. If it's a typo, I might be inclined to believe that they meant Windows Mobile 2003.
 
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:17 AM
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These new WM devices keep getting better and better... Wifi was the only missing feature in hw65xx. Now I have to decide: hw6715 or HTC Wizard?!

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Old 08-11-2005, 07:14 AM
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So - you get a more power hungry version of WiFi (and more bandwidth than you need) but have the same battery size, the same absurdly low resolution (why on earth not 480 x 480?) and, in the process, lose the SD slot?

I see HP haven't got their clue back yet... :roll:
How is g more power hungry than b? They are on the same gigahertz range. Granted, I'm really not an expert on that, but I'd think they'd be the same power.

I do agree about 480x480 - EXCEPT that I can attest to the fact that high res screens SUCK power like anything, so I guess that's why. I also wish the unit had a higher battery rating, but again - its a compromise in that it would require a bigger unit.

Frankly, the 6700 is the ONLY unit I've ever seen that makes me not care so much about VGA.
 
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:42 AM
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So - you get a more power hungry version of WiFi (and more bandwidth than you need) but have the same battery size, the same absurdly low resolution (why on earth not 480 x 480?) and, in the process, lose the SD slot?

I see HP haven't got their clue back yet... :roll:
How is g more power hungry than b? They are on the same gigahertz range. Granted, I'm really not an expert on that, but I'd think they'd be the same power.
That's a good point. I'm sure I remember it being pointed out as more power hungry around about the time it was ratified - but now I think about it I can't say it for certain so I may well be mistaken.

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I do agree about 480x480 - EXCEPT that I can attest to the fact that high res screens SUCK power like anything, so I guess that's why. I also wish the unit had a higher battery rating, but again - its a compromise in that it would require a bigger unit.
I couldn't leave behind VGA having experienced it - but for the right specs could be persuaded to go for 480 x 480. 240 x 240, however, is a huge leap backwards - worse even than QVGA. I can hear Treo 650 users giggling from here - and I don't blame them...!

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Frankly, the 6700 is the ONLY unit I've ever seen that makes me not care so much about VGA.
For me the unit has too many major strikes against it - very low res screen, small battery (for a triple wireless device), mini-SD slot only - and the 6500 as its origin (sure - companies produce great products and poor products - but this is the 6500 with small changes, a PPC phone so bad phone companies didn't want to sell it...!)

Compare the HTC Wizard/Apache, or the Magician, or the WM Treo 670 (if genuine) - they all make the 6700 look, frankly, a bit rubbish - with the 6700 offering only a gimmick (802.11g) to get people to ignore how poorly specc'ed it is in every other respect (and to wipe the 6500 disaster from peopl's minds).

JMHO mind...!
 
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