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Old 08-03-2005, 11:00 AM
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Default PDA Sales Reach Record Levels

http://news.com.com/PDA+shipments+near+record+levels/2100-1047_3-5815873.html?tag=nefd.top

"According to a report by Gartner, worldwide shipments of personal digital assistants totaled 3.6 million units in the last three months, a 32 percent jump from the same period last year. The market is now on track to reach 15 million units shipped by the end of 2005, Gartner analysts said. If that happens, it would surpass the previous record of 13.2 million PDAs shipped in 2001. The study also found that Windows CE is the operating system of choice for business-minded road warriors. The underlying software accounted for 46 percent of worldwide shipments in the second quarter of 2005, followed by RIM with 23.2 percent of the PDA software shipped. PalmSource's 18.8 percent share rounded out the top three."

This includes wireless devices but not smarthones, so the iPAQ 6315 is included, the Treo isn't. Go figure.
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Old 08-03-2005, 11:34 AM
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Old 08-03-2005, 11:57 AM
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!! Win CE is the ultimate OS of choice and beats Palm by a mile. There is so much you can do very efficiently in Win CE. If Palm ever offers a specific functionality that Win CE does, Palm just never offers it efficiently...
 
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Old 08-03-2005, 12:07 PM
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Are you really surprised that Palm whatever they call it now is dieing. For a start they dont even know their name :lol:
 
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Old 08-03-2005, 12:23 PM
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Default Can't They Make Up Their Minds?

Smartphones Up, Handhelds Down Globally In Q2

..."Handheld shipments fell in most regions, with North America down by 36%, while Latin America and Asia Pacific fell 12% and 21% respectively. In EMEA, however, handhelds are still showing growth, at 18% in Q2, as demand for devices with integrated GPS navigation hardware continues to rise."



http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=7983
 
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Old 08-03-2005, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: Can't They Make Up Their Minds?

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Smartphones Up, Handhelds Down Globally In Q2
Did you read the article Beavis? It addressed the difference between this report and the earlier report.
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Old 08-03-2005, 01:12 PM
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Canalys provides the most reliable, easy to interpret numbers. They also indicate that "smart handheld devices" are increasing up to 2001 levels, but a look at this graph might be of interest to the palm affectionados.





WM is actually down 50 000 units from last quarter, while POS is up 20 000 units from last quarter.

I suspect though its just people waiting for WM5.0, while the Treo is maturing.

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Old 08-03-2005, 01:44 PM
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Default What is a "PDA"?

Wouldn't it make sense to define a PDA something like this:

"A device that can exchange data with a desktop computer and run third-party application programs"?

Creating a distinction between "smart phones" and "wireless PDA's" that says a 6315 is one and a Treo is the other is just stupid, and people like Gartner should know that.

The distinction could be meaningful if one were analyizing trends within the PDA market- small screens vs. large screens, cellular radios vs. WiFi radios vs. No radios, etc, would all be interesting.

But to claim "PDA Sales are dropping" by claiming that anything with a cellular radio is a cell phone, or claim that they're rising slightly by making a totally arbitrary cutoff like this "Study" did, is just misleading.

What really counts is that the number of devices that let us keep personal data synchronized between our pockets and our desktops, and that let us decide what software we want to have available (or even write our own), is growing faster and faster, and Palm's share of it is dwindling.

THAT, and the fact that these "studies" keep changing the terminology so that they can spin the numbers any way they want, are the real stories.
 
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Old 08-03-2005, 01:49 PM
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Creating a distinction between "smart phones" and "wireless PDA's" that says a 6315 is one and a Treo is the other is just stupid, and people like Gartner should know that.
I agree, but they aren't the only one that does that. Palm has been pretty adamant in calling the Treo a smartphone whereas all other full blown PDAs with phones built in are called PDAs. Palm seems to be the one with the marketing spin.

Why the market analysists don't ignore that and look at the device based on criteria similar to what you laid out though is beyone me.
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I have a much simpler method for defining and distinguishing a PDA from Smartphone. Anything with a cellular radio inside is a Smartphone. That's it. End of story.

A Blackberry is a Smartphone. A Treo is a Smartphone. Any Pocket PC Phone edition model is a Smartphone.

No cellular radio? No Smartphone. That makes it a PDA. An Axim X50v is a PDA. An iPaq 4700 is a PDA. A Zire 72 is a PDA, etc., etc., etc.
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