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entropy1980

But I thought that was whole point of this upgrade to integrate the Smartphone OS and Pocket PC so they were one platform what is there to include if the phone stuff is already there?

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Jason Dunn

No, that's incorrect information spread by people who didn't know any better. There are unifications of user interface, and some core components, but there are still many differences between the Pocket PC and Smartphone devices.

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Wiggster

The 6300 wasn't built for WM 5.0, it was built for WM 2k3. So it will have to go through the redevelopment cycle, yes, no surprise there, so will the 4700 series. So why is Jason saying that it'll take longer for the 6300 than the 4700?

He isn't. He's citing that historically, it's taken longer for the Phone-toting device to get the upgrade compared to a device without voice capability. That doesn't mean it will take longer this time, he's just provided prior evidence as a possibile indication of a future outcome. We'll have to wait and see how long it takes to come out, we don't know

Although, now that I think about it... the 6300 has pretty much all the things a normal PDA has, PLUS a phone. So that means that after they do the normal PDA stuff, they'll have to debug and test the phone functionality. More features, more time, right? Bah, who knows, we'll play the waiting game to find out.

I'm thinking my next phone will be a Smartphone to go with my PDA. Just have to wait another 4 months until Cingular lets me change my phones :wink:



I didn't think the 6300 ran the Smartphone OS, I thought it was more the regular Pocket PC OS with phone functionality built onto it. I know we're seeing convergence between the sister OSes, but I thought that an oversimplified difference is "Pocket PCs have touchscreens, Smartphones don't".

applejosh

I agree. When I upgraded to the rx3715 (from the H3955), I wasn't really expecting an upgrade to the next version of WM, but that was just a general expectation across all product lines (and if I was going to get screwed on the deal, then I might as well get something with a couple of non-business type bells and whistles). If and when I upgrade the rx somewhere down the road, I'll probably go with a Dell. Not because I think Dell will offer any better support, but because if the manufacturers are grooming the devices to be almost disposable, then I might as well get a better deal on them. I like the fact that I can still use the cables I have from my H3955, but at some point you have to wonder if spending an extra $100-200 on a device in order to save yourself from buying a $30 cable is all that smart. (This really has less to do with HP deciding to keep the rx3000 series out of the upgrade picture and more to do with the overall tendency of all manufacturers to make upgrades less and less of an option.) Just my thoughts. Nothing against the devices of HP or Dell.

gibson042

What (software) differences still remain between WM for Pocket PC and for Smartphone? Also, what will the naming scheme be ("Windows Mobile 5.0 Pocket PC/Smartphone Edition"?), and will there still be an OS distinction between Phone Edition and "standard" Pocket PCs?

Jason Dunn

There are three flavours of Windows Mobile:

� Windows Mobile for the Pocket PC
� Windows Mobile for the Pocket PC Phone Edition
� Windows Mobile for the Smartphone

When Microsoft finished work on the Pocket PC version, they then work on the phone components. Ever wondered why the Phone Edition devices always come out 4-6 months after the non-phone devices? That's why. With Windows Mobile 5, that may have changed and perhaps we'll see phone devices come out at the same time as non-phone devices. I'm just not sure yet.

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Wiggster

Ah, I see. I've been out of the PDA world for far too long.

With all the "experts" saying PDAs will converge into phones, and the rumors about WM 5.0 lessening the boundry between PDA and Smartphone, hopefully we can scrap that middle step-child of the WM family, and be left with the two OSes, Pocket PC and Smartphone. But like you said, we'll have to play the waiting game and see.

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