03-22-2005, 12:00 PM
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Swami
Join Date: Feb 2004
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IEEE Debate & Decide on 802.11n Standard
"The IEEE working group dedicated to the next-generation 802.11n standard has settled on a single proposal, TGn Sync, members said late Thursday night. . . . The 802.11n technology is designed to replace the current crop of 802.11a, 802.11b, and 802.11g standards, with data rates in the neighborhood of 100 Mbits per second; the TGn Sync camp believes that they can achieve 315 Mbits/s or even 630-Mbits/s with even more advanced systems."
A widely agreed and adopted standard, now there's a thing. ;-) The TGn standard was backed by Intel, Sony and Toshiba et al., while the defeated WWiSE standard was backed by Nokia and Motorola etc. The 802.11n standard should be backwardly compatible with 802.11a, 802.11b, and 802.11g, so your existing gear should work with the new kit (albeit at a lower speed). High speed, secure wireless networks. Don't you just love em? :mrgreen:
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03-22-2005, 12:45 PM
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Mystic
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Re: IEEE Debate & Decide on 802.11n Standard
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An widely agreed and adopted standard...
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*cringes*
A widely agreed and adopted standard...
Anyway, how will 11n be compatible with 11a and 11b/g? Does it operate in both frequency fields?
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High speed, secure wireless networks. Don't you just love em? :mrgreen:
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Yes, but I'll believe it when I see it.  The security part still seems rather iffy.
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03-22-2005, 01:50 PM
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Swami
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Re: IEEE Debate & Decide on 802.11n Standard
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*cringes*
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So sorry for the typo, though a PM usually suffices to get it fixed. :wink:
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Anyway, how will 11n be compatible with 11a and 11b/g? Does it operate in both frequency fields?
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Pass. I read several resports for this post and most said the same thing without giving details.
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The security part still seems rather iffy.
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I believe that 802.11n will use WPA2 first deployed in 802.11i. I understand that there are no systematic problem with WPA, unlike WEP. Why do you have security concerns about 802.11n?
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03-22-2005, 04:40 PM
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Mystic
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Re: IEEE Debate & Decide on 802.11n Standard
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Originally Posted by Jonathon Watkins
So sorry for the typo, though a PM usually suffices to get it fixed. :wink:
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heh, not a problem.
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I believe that 802.11n will use WPA2 first deployed in 802.11i. I understand that there are no systematic problem with WPA, unlike WEP. Why do you have security concerns about 802.11n?
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Well, a few years ago, people thought WPA would solve the security holes in WEP. True, it's a lot better, but I'm sure hackers will find out how to break WPA2 as well. There's security concerns with all networking, but much more with wireless. I do hope 802.11i/in 802.11n is secure, but as I said, I'll believe it when I see it.
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03-22-2005, 04:53 PM
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Sage
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I'm sure WPA2 will be more secure than the original WPA is but let's be real. Anyone with the time, knowledge and desire will break it as they have every other security protocal in existance. Anything man made can be broken. All that can be done is to make it better and in the case of wireless it needs to be alot better.
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03-22-2005, 08:02 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Aug 2006
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I was unaware of any glaring flaws with properly set up WPA (read: long enough key). Is it, too, broken? If so, please provide links, or at least tell me when this happened!
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03-22-2005, 10:01 PM
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Oracle
Join Date: Aug 2006
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I too thought WPA (even WPA-PSK for home use w/o authentication server) had been good enough with the always-changing TKIP encryption keys? And if my memory serves, doesn't WPA2 mostly add AES encryption to the WPA spec?
But I find it interesting that the article says TGn Sync won against the WWiSE proposal which is backed by Broadcom, Conexant, TI, Motorola, Airgo, Nokia, etc. I mean aren't those the vast majority of the current Wi-Fi chipset heavyweights?? Whereas TGn Sync (other than Atheros) seems to be supported more by general PC/consumer electronics heavyweights (Intel, Sony, Matsu****a, Toshiba, etc)! Is the win justified by technical advantages, or more politics? Is WWiSE actually better performing? Is TGn Sync backward compatible whereas WWiSE isn't?
Though admittedly a 181-140 vote win is hardly the 75% supermajority needed for the next vote...
Another thing, I'd often read elsewhere that 11n's goal is supposedly actual 100Mbps throughput rather than just 100Mbs data rate (as everyone knows the two can differ by a lot)?
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03-22-2005, 10:17 PM
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