03-21-2005, 07:00 PM
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Swami
Join Date: Feb 2004
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One More for the Media Format Party: MicroSD
"Normally news that we�re going to have yet another flash memory card format to contend with would result in plenty of whining on our part about how there are way too many formats to deal with already, whining which may or may not be followed by some sort of plea for the manufacturers of the world to join hands and work together on common standards. But not this time around. . . . The new microSD card is going to be fully compatible with and have the same exact dimensions as TransFlash (both measure 11mm x 15mm x 1mm in size), and SanDisk has already announced plans to �transition� its TransFlash line to the microSD standard later this year. It sounds like everyone decided to spare us the pointless format war."
The Famous Four. (There are no pics of MicroSD yet, but it's the same size as Transflash).
So, it looks like we have another entrant to the overcrowded media format party. However this one is different. It looks like the SD standard has managed to swallow Transflash to produce a reasonable amount of compatibility. OK, you can only easily move smaller cards into adaptors on larger devices, but it's something. So, do you reckon we have the (W)holy Quartet then? CF, SD, MiniSD and MicroSD forever and ever amen? ;-) Will these four sizes/formats of media card be sufficient, or is there any reason to buy any other standard?
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03-21-2005, 07:45 PM
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We need a foaming at the mouth emoticon for the pocketpcthoughts crew.
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03-21-2005, 07:47 PM
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Swami
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Originally Posted by Jonathan1
We need a foaming at the mouth emoticon for the pocketpcthoughts crew.
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Why? :wink: I am saying that MicroSD is a sensible development. We now have, what, 24 differnt card formats? Or is that 23? The media card madness must end some time. :?
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03-21-2005, 07:52 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Re: One More for the Media Format Party: MicroSD
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Originally Posted by Jonathon Watkins
Will these four sizes/formats of media card be sufficient, or is there any reason to buy any other standard?
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Well, if you ever want a Sony device, you'll have a reason.
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03-21-2005, 07:59 PM
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03-21-2005, 08:17 PM
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Swami
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: One More for the Media Format Party: MicroSD
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Originally Posted by Jonathon Watkins
So, do you reckon we have the (W)holy Quartet then? CF, SD, MiniSD and MicroSD forever and ever amen? ;-) Will these four sizes/formats of media card be sufficient, or is there any reason to buy any other standard?
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I don't think we need those four, even. I have a 128 MB TransFlash, er, MicroSD card for my Motorola V710, and it really is too small. Personally, I think SD is about right and we shouldn't have MiniSD or MicroSD, but what do I know?
At least the TransFlash card came with an SD adapter so I can use it in my laptop and iPAQ.
Steve
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03-21-2005, 08:31 PM
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Swami
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Originally Posted by saru83
Actually these 4 cards will be totaly rejected when the C-flash will be available.
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No chance. Just about everyone is geared up to use SD/MMC at the moment. Most devices support it and I think it has a bright future. Heck, I'm still buying CF cards and I think SD is too small. :lol: I know a lot of other folks that feel the same way. SD is as about as small as you want to go for a an interchangeable media card format (as opposed to a card designed to sit under a SIM and never be taken out).
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SD for example has a max support of 4GB on the other hand C-flash has max support of 2048GB  |
I thought that as well, but apprently, SD tops out at 32Gb. Standards do evolve as well, so I don't think it's as cut and dried as that.
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So what do u think? :wink:
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I think there are too many media card standards. ;-) I also think we should make it clear we won't put up with the manufactures attempts to gouge us for their proprietary card formats.
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:lol: Thank you. That's the fist time someone's quoted one of my own post back at me as a rebuttal. :lol: I'll be sure to read it. :wink:
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03-21-2005, 08:35 PM
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Swami
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Re: One More for the Media Format Party: MicroSD
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Originally Posted by PPCRules
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Originally Posted by Jonathon Watkins
Will these four sizes/formats of media card be sufficient, or is there any reason to buy any other standard?
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Nah, dump the Sony. :devilboy: Take a look at the following list. The prices are Expansys own brand, so it's a fair comparison:
�16.95 = 256Mb Compact Flash
�21.95 = 256Mb SD
�22.95 = 256Mb Mini SD (with SD adaptor)
�37.95 = 256Mb Transflash (with SD adaptor)
�45.95 = 256Mb Memory stick
Sony has messed folks up with their frequent memory stick standard changes and has left consumers out in the cold. Their expensive propitiatory standard will never be the mainstream standard, so why buy any product that supports it when you can get better products that support open standards? :?:
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03-21-2005, 08:39 PM
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Pontificator
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Originally Posted by saru83
Actually these 4 cards will be totaly rejected when the C-flash will be available.
Coz C-flash 'by Pretec' is the smallest though the highest supported capasity ever.
SD for example has a max support of 4GB on the other hand C-flash has max support of 2048GB
So what do u think? :wink:
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Where do you get this 4GB figure for SD cards from??
It looks like you're spreading misinformation without even verifiying at the source!!
This figure of yours is ab-so-lute-ly wrong: I verified it myself and Panasonic, one of the SD standard initiator, mentions a development path up to 32 GB, almost 30 GB over your wrong figure; a whole lot more!!
You probably remember the wrong figure given by a Taiwanese site when they presented one of the infamous substandard card.
PPCT mentioned it, I did some research and mentioned the problem here and emailed the Taiwanese site that DID correct it. However this article on that site is not freely available now, and some people here still remember the wrong figure.
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03-21-2005, 08:41 PM
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Philosopher
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Re: One More for the Media Format Party: MicroSD
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Originally Posted by Jonathon Watkins
...or is there any reason to buy any other standard?
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I say let's develop even more memory card form factors. You can never have too many. I mean, how are the manufacturers supposed to screw us out of money, er, I mean get us to stay current with the newest and latest technologies?
Question: At what point do "standards" become pointless? I mean, aren't standards supposed to converge technologies in an agreeable fashion so they can be used across different devices from different manufacturers? Or is it just a "standard" if someone declares it a standard because it sells more that way? If we have 20 some different "standards" for the same function, are any of them really standards? :confused totally:
I agree with Pony99CA. The SD is small enough. Smaller than that and you lose them too easily (which is probably another reason they're trying to shrink everything down). I have problems enough trying to keep my SD cards in tow.
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