02-04-2005, 04:00 PM
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More News On HP's Mobile Messenger
Here's a quick roundup of interesting articles on this potential Treo-killer:
- Lisa over at MobileTechReview met with HP at their Mobility Summit and had an opportunity to play with the unit, and has clarified various points; amongst other things, the unit will have dual slots, won't have WiFi, and is supposed to have EDGE and real integrated GPS with TomTom software.
- iPAQabilities has a few more pictures of the unit. I particularly like the in-hand shot -- it looks tiny!
- And as for dimensions, the folks at engadget did some detective work by superimposing a SD card on the pictures and came up with a guess. See what you think.
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02-04-2005, 04:04 PM
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Sage
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The lack of WIFI will be the undoing of the device, IMHO. I was salivating at the thought of an EDGE enabled device with GPS and dual slots, but no WIFI is a deal killer for me.
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02-04-2005, 04:31 PM
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I didn't like the looks, and now with the news of no wifi and included gps I am really wondering who the market for this is? What kind of mobile worker would not use WiFi? Data plans are just not cheap enough yet to pass on the wifi, imho. I would put money on it also that HP put a 240x240 screen rather than 320 x 320, you just watch.
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02-04-2005, 04:33 PM
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Well, not only does MobileTechReview suggest that it's 240x240, I believe WM2003SE has support for 240x240 and 480x480 but not 320x320.
--janak
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02-04-2005, 06:31 PM
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Well, the first time "dual slots" doesn't mean CF+SD, right?
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02-04-2005, 06:39 PM
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The review does mention 240 x 240, which is a real negative as far as I'm concerned. Think how small your GPS maps will be on this unit. How usable will that be? The Treo 650 has basically double the resolution of this device in a smaller form factor.
While I applaud HP for addressing a lot of the issues the 6315 had (integratged keyboard, faster processor), they still don't seem to understand the high end market these would be expected to sell to. This will be the lowest resolution device on the market. With MS strange decision to limit functionality of Hi-Res devices, surely a 480 x 480 screen would make more sense. I've been hoping for a higher end PPC with built in GPS, and this comes close, but too many corners are cut.
Not only doesn't it include WiFi, but the SD card slot is on the side, meaning your WiFi SD card/antenna will be in the way of holding the device if you elect to go that route. I still have to ask--> Do the people who design these devices actually use them? It seem nearly every device has one significant flaw limiting it's usefulness.
I still am drooling over the potential of the MDA IV that we saw ealier this week - take that device and build in GPS and you may actually have "MY" perfect device.
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02-04-2005, 06:59 PM
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Please please HP, give us 480 x 480, wi fi or GPS as a choice, and i�ll just love it!!!! :rock on dude!:
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02-04-2005, 07:33 PM
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HP does 3/4 of the job again. The sad thing is that they'll charge double what they should for a machine that is 3/4 of what it should be. :roll:
What is wrong with the WM2003 makers? If getting the design and packaging so hard?
The platform may die as a result of slow sales which will be the result of poor design, lack of innovation, poor execution, and the nickel and dining of the OEM's.
It's both frustrating and a shame. :cry:
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02-04-2005, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by powder2000
I didn't like the looks, and now with the news of no wifi and included gps I am really wondering who the market for this is? What kind of mobile worker would not use WiFi? Data plans are just not cheap enough yet to pass on the wifi, imho. I would put money on it also that HP put a 240x240 screen rather than 320 x 320, you just watch.
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I think it would be a no-brainer Treo killer if it had WiFi. Without WiFi, it's not an OBVIOUS choice for the non-techies.
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02-04-2005, 08:01 PM
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Intellectual
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10:1 this thing runs Magneto and the 240x240 resolution won't be as bad as it sounds because of the built-in keyboard. The merging of the two OS, Smartphone and PPC will be interesting.
Lack of Wi-Fi surprises me but it seems like this was built more for messaging and voice than heavy duty websurfing. GPS will be a nice addition for those who need it.
Excepting the backward compatibility from the square screen I bet this will be a nice device for the people they're targetting.
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