Janak Parekh

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Janak Parekh

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Here's what I don't get: wouldn't battery manufacturers integrate this into the unit itself if it truly worked like magic? Maybe it has some side effect we don't know of, like decreasing the long-term life of the battery?

--janak

ctitanic

that's my point. I read it in some where about 2 years ago about these devices and the opinion of an elect. eng. about it. According to him all these devices don't work at all. But... who knows.

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rob_ocelot

My vote is that it's bunk, based on my knowledge of battery chemistry.

Li-ion and Li-polymer batteries are sealed in a non-conductive container, so anything on the surface of the container would have to penetrate the gel layer of the battery. This is not what is happening here, nor would you want it to be happening.

So why are they getting 'better' battery life?

All of the tests are done using batteries that are at the end of their life cycle (18 - 24 months), and in that time those batteries have not been touched because they are sealed inside the machine (like the old iPaq batteries) or in a plastic housing (like laptop batteries). What's probably happening is that by putting this metal sticker on the surface of the battery container you are massaging the eletrolyte a bit and shaking things up that have settled. It'll give you a temporary boost in life but in the long run it'll settle back down to what it was before.

I notice none of the tests were done on new batteries, probably because it doesn't do anything to a battery that's fresh out of the factory. You would think a battery-savy company like Mugen would be all over something like this -- their batteries blow away anything you can get from an OEM because they have lower internal resistence (even if you just compare the mAh rating). If something could make new battery life better and keep the manufacturing cost the same they would have done it or be using it.

Some REAL tests to determine if this works:

-Remove the sticker and see if battery life returns to the previous state. I bet you that it doesn't.

-Put a sticker of some other material on the battery using the exact same method (80% coverage) and see if the life increases. I bet you that it does.

This whole thing reminds me of laundry disks and balls they were selling a few years back. They worked, mainly because you have enough residual soap in your clothes that you don't need to add any detergent. Most people aren't even aware. The company explanation was that their product caused some sort of 'ion charged duplicity' in the water making it *super* water. Uh huh, and I hear that all of the moon landings were faked too. It's true because I read it on the internet. 0X

Just because they've patented the product or the design doesn't mean it actually works. The patent office doesn't have time to go through every device and design.

Janak Parekh

Thanks for the feedback, Rob. It's very helpful.

One last question: how long do you think the "benefit" would last? Are talking days, weeks, months? I'm guessing shorter, but the longer it is the more value such a "sticker" would have.

--janak

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